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So I have enjoyed playing Backgammon in the past, but nowadays is just IMPOSSIBLE. I am sure many others have noticed this. There are players out there that can control the dice at least for them, and some can even move more chips than the allowed by standard rules.
For example, not 10 minutes ago, I rolled 6 and 5, then the guy doubled me on his first roll, and got double three, then I rolled and I got 4 and 1, then he rolled and got 3 and 1, then I rolled and got 3 and 2, then he rolled and got double 5 eating my lonely chip in position 1 and covering position 3 from position 8. Do you call that a lucky roll? I call that an engineered roll, if you know Backgammon.
Yesterday, a guy moved 6 chips using a double 5. That same guy rolled 4 consecutive pairs.
Yesterday, I had 5 out of 6 positions occupied in my side and I ate one of the other player's chips. I did this repeatedly. The guy just lost 1 roll out of 4 chips I ate. He also had 5 of 6 positions occupied. He ate a chip of mine twice. I had to roll some 10 times before I could get out each time.
If you know Backgammon, you know this is NOT right. Losers out there have found a way to cheat, and that ruins the fun for us, the ones with a brain.
Microsoft, please put an end to this. Your Windows license is expensive, and I paid for it, and I expect to be able to enjoy all the features in the OS, and that includes the included Internet gaming. Roll a patch that can end this blatant cheating!
MCP
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Hi,
If you have any feedback’s, then I would suggest you to post here:
https://connect.microsoft.com/?wa=wsignin1.0
Please respond back with the status of the issue and let us know if you have any issues.
Azam – Microsoft
So I have enjoyed playing Backgammon in the past, but nowadays is just IMPOSSIBLE. I am sure many others have noticed this. There are players out there that can control the dice at least for them, and some can even move more chips than the allowed by standard rules.
For example, not 10 minutes ago, I rolled 6 and 5, then the guy doubled me on his first roll, and got double three, then I rolled and I got 4 and 1, then he rolled and got 3 and 1, then I rolled and got 3 and 2, then he rolled and got double 5 eating my lonely chip in position 1 and covering position 3 from position 8. Do you call that a lucky roll? I call that an engineered roll, if you know Backgammon.
Yesterday, a guy moved 6 chips using a double 5. That same guy rolled 4 consecutive pairs.
Yesterday, I had 5 out of 6 positions occupied in my side and I ate one of the other player's chips. I did this repeatedly. The guy just lost 1 roll out of 4 chips I ate. He also had 5 of 6 positions occupied. He ate a chip of mine twice. I had to roll some 10 times before I could get out each time.
If you know Backgammon, you know this is NOT right. Losers out there have found a way to cheat, and that ruins the fun for us, the ones with a brain.
Microsoft, please put an end to this. Your Windows license is expensive, and I paid for it, and I expect to be able to enjoy all the features in the OS, and that includes the included Internet gaming. Roll a patch that can end this blatant cheating!
MCP
The world is full of sad little people, if they do not get the dice roll they want then they just quit. I hate to think what they are like in life itself. Do they cry if they don't get it all their own way. I have been beaten 5-0 many times but still keep playing (unless of course blatant cheating is occuring). The game is for fun not for a new car or words to that effect. Maybe microsoft can organise a site where you log in and if you cheat or spit the dummy then you should be banned for a time so that REAL people can enjoy the battle of wits and bottle ( will you leave a button on it's own )
If you play enough, you'll lose to those on a hot streak. Players do get on incredible hot streaks. Play with actual dice (of your own choosing). It happens.
That still doesn't explain how some players can ignore nudges. At the precise point where it's obvious to both players that you're going to win, they stop playing. You wait for 2 minutes, and the nudge button lights up. You think, "At last!" You click "Nudge" and they should be forced to either move or resign, but they don't do either. Somehow, they never get disconnected. Eventually, the game disconnects for YOU -- who should be the winner! Maybe they also lose?
Another Microsoft issue is the unfair luck of the computer. I feel certain this isn't just my brain making patterns. When the other player gets disconnected (or disconnects), then the computer takes over. The computer is stupid, and so it's VERY easy to beat, but you have to be patient, since it's so lucky. If the computer is about to roll, and the worst possible roll against you is a 6-3, and everything else is safe, then the computer gets a 6-3 over 50% of the time. Before the roll, think of the top 3 rolls for the computer. Maybe big doubles, or double 1s, or some specific roll. The computer is very likely to get one of those rolls (or the only one). It doesn't necessarily use that roll effectively, though. The unlucky dice vs. the computer affects your rolls, too. If most every roll is safe, except 1 roll -- say a 5-4 -- then you're extremely likely to get the 5-4 or whatever bad roll. The computer seems very, very lucky, but incredibly stupid, and thus destined to lose.
Again, I need to start keeping a database... If I do that, though, won't the other player suspect me of cheating, since I'll take so long?
I also play backgammon a lot, and beat about 78-80% of the players I face, including any cheaters (if there are any). Yes, there are games I suspect are weighted either by cheating, or VERY lucky rolls, which (of course) are possible without cheating.
I've never seen anyone move 6 pieces on a move. However, without cheating, I have rolled doubles in succession a handful of times. I've had it done by the other player a number of times. It does SEEM more common in certain situations (but it could just be me):
a. When the other player is trying to catch up.
b. When I'm playing vs. the computer (other player has resigned).
Another VERY bad couple of things that I KNOW are problems, and I wish Microsoft would fix:
Is this a Microsoft thing, or a wifi thing? Anyway... watch out.
THESE LAST TWO ARE "SUSPECTED" PROBLEMS:
I too see this happening and it all looks too coincidental. Sometimes I do get these kinds of rolls so I am not sure the opponent is cheating but truly the dice roll is far from random. The cheating I have noticed is (and always from a 2200 rating and above is (although not from everyone above that rating) when they begin to lose they go through move undo move exercize repeatedly at blinding speed until the program thinks it is my turn yet it shows them with one move to make. And I am unable to roll the dice. The whole time they childish taunt me that I won't win when I have them on the bar with only one position open to them.
Explain that?