Is there a stop to Internet Backgammon cheaters?

Anonymous
2010-04-09T18:01:10+00:00

So I have enjoyed playing Backgammon in the past, but nowadays is just IMPOSSIBLE.  I am sure many others have noticed this.  There are players out there that can control the dice at least for them, and some can even move more chips than the allowed by standard rules.

For example, not 10 minutes ago, I rolled 6 and 5, then the guy doubled me on his first roll, and got double three, then I rolled and I got 4 and 1, then he rolled and got 3 and 1, then I rolled and got 3 and 2, then he rolled and got double 5 eating my lonely chip in position 1 and covering position 3 from position 8.  Do you call that a lucky roll?  I call that an engineered roll, if you know Backgammon.

Yesterday, a guy moved 6 chips using a double 5.  That same guy rolled 4 consecutive pairs.

Yesterday, I had 5 out of 6 positions occupied in my side and I ate one of the other player's chips.  I did this repeatedly.  The guy just lost 1 roll out of 4 chips I ate.  He also had 5 of 6 positions occupied.  He ate a chip of mine twice.  I had to roll some 10 times before I could get out each time.

If you know Backgammon, you know this is NOT right.  Losers out there have found a way to cheat, and that ruins the fun for us, the ones with a brain.

Microsoft, please put an end to this.  Your Windows license is expensive, and I paid for it, and I expect to be able to enjoy all the features in the OS, and that includes the included Internet gaming.  Roll a patch that can end this blatant cheating!

MCP

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Anonymous
2010-04-10T13:55:17+00:00

Hi,

If you have any feedback’s, then I would suggest you to post here:

https://connect.microsoft.com/?wa=wsignin1.0

 Please respond back with the status of the issue and let us know if you have any issues.

 Azam – Microsoft

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  1. Anonymous
    2011-10-10T08:45:01+00:00

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  2. Anonymous
    2011-10-10T08:42:50+00:00

    I agree with you. This cheating happens all of the time. I have even had my die number changed after I roll.

    I have had the other player roll when I had not even had a chance to move my second number. I am not a loly gager I love the fast pace of the game, but often there will be a long pause, then the other player gets the perfect roll. How about 3 doubles in a row.

    When you are not playing a fixed game it is great win or loose. It is so easy to detect a cheater on the other side. These are people that have to win every time, they just cant loose.

    When I detect this I just abandon the game. Let them finish with the computer **** them.

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  3. Anonymous
    2011-10-09T20:16:43+00:00

    Are there cheaters? It's very unlikely.

    You are very naive.  Check out my counts vs probability of a random roll (on page 1) and then read Tripp523 on page 2 - he actually used a cheat program.

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  4. Anonymous
    2011-10-09T20:08:19+00:00

    New study results.  This time I counted (using a program I developed) their come out roll of a 6 or equal rolls.

    The expected probability is 33% (1/6 + 1/6)

    I got 242/344 or 70%

     

    I just wanted to clarify that the probability of rolling doubles is not 33%. If it were than the probability of rolling six sixes with six dice would be 100% (1/6 + 1/6 + 1/6 + 1/6 + 1/6 + 1/6).

    The actual probabilty is 1/36 to roll a particular double, say 6-6. and 1/6 to roll any set of doubles. There are 36 combinations that two dice can be and six of those combinations are doubles.

    The odds of rolling at least one six with two dice is 11/36 or 30.5%.

    Having said that I agree that there are plenty of cheaters on MSN backgammon.

    I just got taken by the cheat where they move their pip back and forth and then accuse me of cheating just before the clock somehow runs out on me and I am booted from the game.

    You misunderstood.  I did not include the probability of rolling doubles ( here you are correct ).  I included the conditional probability that if you opponent rolls a given number on the come out roll, that you will roll that same number (1/6).

    Otherwise you analysis is correct.

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