Random freezes with windows 7 - 64 bit

Ok let's not get fooled here it is a MS issue not hardware at all

WHERE IS OUR FIX !

I agree it may be time for Microsoft to come out with a fix for these issue that would entail services/processes having a broader tolerance for all the variety of possibilities out there with so many Mobo makers creating so many specialized services or tasks that run to support their products.

But in Microsofts defense it would be very hard to be able to foretell all the myriad of task/services/processes that are out there to all run smoothly and cohesively together. It really is up to the manufacturers of these components to work within a specific set of criteria that Microsoft sets forth to allow compatibility for all the ginormous amounts of products out there.

I still marvel at our ability as a species to take so many variables and do make the majority of them work together even tho they come from different countries and continents.

Thanks BlokeUK, I tried your suggestion with disabling the services but I do not have an Asus Control Service and the only item I have running after hiding all the MS services is XAudioService. After disabling that I froze again right away. After reading Dragon_Nexus post about virus I now recall switching from Avast to MSE and that's about when my troubles began. I am going to remove MSE and see what happens even though MSE is running on my desktop with an upgraded Windows 7 with no issues.

Secondly, In the MS troubleshooting link you posted am I to start disabling the MS services that it first said to hide to see if any of those are causing the issue? I want to make sure I'm doing this right so I don't brick my machine.

I have spent probably 40+ hours trying to get this to work. Probably better off just buying a new laptop.

Thanks Microsoft for another wonderfully compatible product.

Sorry this did not fix your problems.

I really would not start messing with Microsoft services, I know very little about them and I think the article says to leave well alone?

I share in your frustration with this, it has driven me mad for weeks, after a number of days trouble free and having computer running from Thursday up until last night with out a glitch, I booted up tonight and experienced a lock up almost immediately from logging in (just when I thought I had this thing nailed)

This is really annoying and computer is running fine after second boot (touch wood).

My experiencing of lockups is as described by jvanderberg  simply scrolling mouse wheel causes the lockups and this is exactly what happened earlier, just booted up, loaded Safari and started scrolling down this page and boom screen corruption and lockup.

I do not think computer locks up only screen and mouse and keyboard, as hard disk lights flicker, and music plays to end of track only and then stops before going to next track.

I read somewhere about Microsoft releasing an update with new ACL's causing black screen of death, maybe that is causing this problem too.

The ironic thing is that at work I was praising the stability of RC1 and this alone influenced me to by the retail win 7 x64, my work mates jibed that M$ obviously hadn't incorporated any security patches into the RC  and that was why it was stable, but then they are mostly unix heads and take delight in seeing Windows users suffer. Oddly I did note that the ISO size of RC1 is smaller than the release iso so maybe they were right :)

Annoyingly M$ just don't seem to see this problem as their problem and are all to happy to dismiss as a hardware issue.

How many people here have a USB mouse?

Mine is wireless but the mouse part plugs into the usb port and the keyboard into the PS2 port and the mouse is a M$ one so no excuses M$!

I am just about to install Linux on spare partition and see how this runs, they have the ATI drivers for my card and will be interesting to see if this crashes using Linux, I will play with Linux for a week and report back, this can at least eliminate the problem as hardware and pinpoint as a driver or OS problem.

Sadly not enough people post their frustrations and so M$ don't think there is a big enough problem to warrant any time to investigate?

I note from other posts that other motherboards and even Dell are having problems so that discounts the motherboard manufacturer's Gigabyte and Asus. though I stand firmly by my statement about Asus releasing some pretty shoddy buggy utilities, I have had Asus boards right from the days of Athlon XP and Duron chips and yes they have all been flaky.

I really hope a fix is found soon as this is becoming annoying as I am unable to use my computer properly and certainly am not making any use of my new quad core processor and Direct X11 gfx card, maybe I will stick with Linux if it is stable and use Wine until M$ eventually release a fix Win7 SP1 anybody?

"Sadly not enough people post their frustrations and so M$ don't think there is a big enough problem to warrant any time to investigate?" I think the length of this thread is clear evidence that this is not true. We are voicing our displeasure here and the main thing we need to understand is WHERE this problem is. You have to be akin to a computer surgeon nowadays to pinpoint the specific place in all this complexity and determine that as being the cause. Think about how different your PC is from my PC and someone else PC in terms of actual components with all one common OS. This IS Microsoft's responsibility since it is the heart but it may not be such an easy thing to find this root cancer and remove it as we may think due to the complexity of the whole.

I am doing my part to contribute my knowledge of what aspect I can see seems to be broken (audiodg.exe) and others are tackling some other avenues as well.

I really hope a fix is found soon as this is becoming annoying as I am unable to use my computer properly and certainly am not making any use of my new quad core processor and Direct X11 gfx card, maybe I will stick with Linux if it is stable and use Wine until M$ eventually release a fix Win7 SP1 anybody?

if you have a hardware problem in your PC how exactly is a service pack going to help you to correct a hardware issue of incorrect memory timings in relation to your Mobo? I am not saying you have one but do u see how silly this statement is if ppl have their memory timings set wrong or incorrect voltages for the memory speed. Or even memory speeds too fast for the processor they have. A service pack wont do jack to help these issues.

What would help is if Microsoft creates error codes that are aren't meant to be read by ppl with Computer Science degrees but normal ppl who have some base to work off of to tackle these errors. THAT would help everyone.

My memory timings where wrong for Vista 64-bit?  Please explain that, I ran solid as a rock under Vista and my memory timings are the same now as they were back then.  

But then along comes Windows 7 and suddenly I am subject to random freezes.  The cause is Windows 7, not my hardware.

ok that's fine if its Windows 7 uninstall it, go back to whatever flavor of OS you want to have and stop posting on this thread if its not constructive in nature to help resolve the problem. Putting just blame out "The cause is Windows 7, not my hardware." does not solve the problem for those that ARE having a memory timing issue and how Win7 reacts to it. Discounting the fact that this problem DOES exist on a hardware layer for some but not you does not contribute to the whole. There are 4 areas that I have noticed will make Windows 7 react strongly and violently (whereas other OS's may not):

1. Hardware memory timings
2. Hybrid/Sleep modes
3. Audiodg.exe
4. Autoplay with USB Readyboost drives (thumb drives)

I have been able to knock all 4 of these issues out since the Oct timeframe that Win7 was released and my system now runs smoothly and stably day after day after day. Now you have a choice, you can either get mad, throw blame around, revert to a different OS or actually work with us to overcome and knockout these problems and be on your way in an OS that quite evidently is not perfect but can be made to act that way or you may not. Its your choice.

Will there be problems in the future. Quite possibly, but the thing is how do we overcome these obstacles in computing. Do we just throw blame and give up or actually work together to overcome this obstacle. How are we going to overcome our disagreements on a planetary scale if we can't even overcome a stupid OS freezing issue problem. What a travesty it would be to any of our forefathers to say we cant all even work together enough to overcome some stupid computer issue and then move on to bigger and better challenges that the world faces today.

I want to be part of the solution crowd not the problem/blaming/name-calling crowd. Which one do you want to be in?

If you are running other 64 bit operating systems fine that utilize all hardware then YOU DON'T have a hardware problem. It is silly to jump to conclusions. Not everybody has the same issue (that's why they should be logging their issue on seperate threads).... don't expect this thread to get anywhere (too much noise).

That's true but I did not experience sudden restarts until Win7 came about all along having a bad memory timing issue lurking in the background cause me to confront these hardware problems which Windows 7 detected rather violently. If Linux or XP are not showing the symptoms but Windows 7 does maybe its a sensitivity issue of the OS in detecting these off-kilter timings. But the short end of the story is I did have a hardware issue that once fixed made sudden restarts stop completely and my computer is running very nice and behaving and i love it!

If you think Linux is less sensitive that Windows 7 you've got another thing coming LOL :).

This probably fixes YOUR issue as YOU hard a hardware related issue and decided to visit a Windows 7 forum with your hardware issue ;)

I have no hardware issues thankyou (I've been building PC's since the early 1980's).

Not all the issues here are like yours if you read the thread carefully. And people have been going on about memory timings before. Again if they have hardware issues they should goto TomsHardware.com :).

If you have nothing usefull for ppl here , please leave. Noone need comments like yours " goto imdabest.com ".

U are a crack on hardware ? fine but if you can't resolve the whole bug for everyone , stay back and watch adult talk. And for your information my hardware was checked about 10 times by different people certified in IT.

The bug IS the OS.

so what is your input into the solution to the problem? or is name calling your best effort to resolve a problem? If you do not like it uninstall and be on your way. No one is holding a gun to your head saying you MUST use this OS or you will die is there?

Please offer constructive systematic process steps to overcome a problem and stop the childish antics, it really does not help those of us that want to see this resolved and WE CAN AND WILL!