I receive Aero Lag when opening and closing windows in Windows 7

Anonymous
2009-11-03T19:47:26+00:00

original title:  Aero Lag when opening and closing windows in Windows 7

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK since we've got the ball rolling here, I am editing this to better reflect what is going on. The below links are just a few out of hundreds of post you will find on the internet about this Aero Lag. Some offer workarounds and some don't. I just Googled Aero Lag and this was from the first page.

If you have the same problem, please provide:

  1. What type of graphics card you have.
  2. What kind of drivers are you using (Win7 preinstalled or manufacturer's drivers)
  3. Was your version of Win7 an update or clean install.
  4. What motherboard you have.

From the sounds of it, Microsoft is looking for a fix.

I also ask for a forum admin to make this a sticky as many people are experiencing this problem.

-Randall

http://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/22313-aero-lag-good-system.html

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-cards/21250-win7-aero-windows-have-choppy-delay-when-opening.html

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itproperf/thread/a013396d-8953-4e32-8d13-f2d119cd730d

http://www.flamehaus.com/bbs/-vp3478764.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKNj_90E_PI

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1465844

http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-hardware/1549-windows-7-video-lag.html

http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-software/23315-gaming-video-lag-choppyness.html

http://windows7forums.com/windows-7-support/5287-aero-lags-when-open-new-programs.html

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=66007

http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t787172.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdVrSUhvLE


Randall

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Anonymous
2011-01-13T22:36:16+00:00

**Have solved my problem withAeor lag.**Reinstall Windows 7 U64 twice with new/old driver.

Replaced Gforce 8800GTX with Gforce GTX480.

Have spent many days on this problem without a solution.

But here is a very simple solution that works for me.

I removed the USB extension cablefor my CreativeHS-1200WirelessUSB Gaming Headset.

Aero lags when Iused USB extension cable and headset charging.

Without USB extension cable, everything is fine.

So it think itis a voltagedrop in the USB extension cable,causes the system to lag. ?

Hope it can help.

Sincerely,

Dennis Psilander

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  1. Anonymous
    2009-12-14T07:58:11+00:00

    And you have no comment about Notepad, which opens lightning fast?  Nor do you have a comment about the instantaneous opening when you disable Animate Windows?

    [...] You had to go FRAME BY FRAME and analyze the video to even notice a problem.  What does that tell you?

    • The whole problem is not about how fast or slow windows open. The problem is not about a long pause but about frames missing in the open and close animation. For example, when closing a window it seems that the window is instantaneously set back to a slightly smaller window like hopping smaller and just then the usual closing animation takes over. One could say this is intentional, but the people calling this a problem find that it looks wrong, like Windows desperately seeking to look choppy.
    • It was commented on opening VirtualDub and not on Notepad because the camera was less shaking when VirtualDub was openend.
    • Disabling "Animate Windows" does not solve the problem but just hides it. This is basically the same as uninstalling Windows to get rid of a problem: "Look, the problem is gone!"
    • I did not have to go through the video frame by frame. The glitch was clearly visible in live video when concentrating on ignoring the shaking of the camera.
    • This is not "the new way windows are opened" because the problem is not seen when minimizing and maximizing windows. It doesn't seem plausible that Microsoft would present a different animation for those operations
    • Vista users are most easily affected by the problem since they used Aero for two or more years and are disturbed by the glitch in the animation that was never seen on Vista.

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  2. Anonymous
    2009-12-14T02:47:09+00:00

    Display models at stores are always going to be horrible.  They don't get maintained, they're left running for extended periods and they have crapware installed.

    My Windows 7 is running on its own partition, paging file is on a separate partition, no performance related issues that I didn't initiate or was unaware of (i.e. virus scan).  Definitely no window animation issue...none. You can tell from my video that my experience is NOTHING like some of those other YouTube where it's just lagging when you open or close; that's a performance issue OR they don't have a graphics card that can handle that sufficiently. 

    Some of you have to understand...the reason Vista was so taxing had to do with how they were handling screen output and background processes.  In Vista these items were at the forefront, and Aero in particular was a beast.  In Windows 7 as much as possible has been offloaded to the GPU, which is why the performance is faster, but it's also the reason you might be experiencing these types of things, especially on the Intel integrated chipsets vs. dedicated nVidia or ATI chipsets.

    I can say without a doubt that you are absolutely wrong.

    I have a laptop that has a Geforce 260GTX as well as a desktop that has the same video card. Do you mean to tell me that both these video cards are insufficient to handle Aero?

    I have installed this on more than 10 systems, each running current state of the art hardware, with the latest drivers, and EACH OF THEM DISPLAY THE PROBLEM. Your computer displays it too, no matter how much you say it doesn't. The problem with most videos shot via video camera is that the refresh rate is TOO SLOW to grab the frames where you will actually see the stutter; you're eyes can capture information much faster than a camera will, so it won't display that well on the video, unless you actually have a video camera that is HD capable of capturing at more than 60Hz, which I'm sure you don't.

    The video you posted also is unfortunately too shaky. Frames such as the ones we are talking about that are missing can be missed when the camera is not held steady. I have downloaded your video and am going to slow it down by 10x to verify if that lag is still there.

    Ok, I downloaded your video and slowed it down frame by frame to see if the problem is there.

    The answer is: YES. Even on your own video, the problem is displayed.

    As I stated previously, the camera is a bit shaky, so it doesn't do a very good job of capturing the "snap", lag, or whatever you want to call it. However, this lag/snap is CLEARLY visible when you open the first window in your video, Virtualdub. When I play it in slow motion, frame by frame, I can clearly see when the window is close to "finishing" opening, it snaps open. It is most clear here, since you shake the camera the least at this point.

    If you'd like to give this another shot, try putting the camera on a tripod, and, this time around, open and CLOSE windows in succession. I can slow that one down again, and I'll bet you the problem is still there.

     

    And you have no comment about Notepad, which opens lightning fast?  Nor do you have a comment about the instantaneous opening when you disable Animate Windows?

    I'm not denying you guys are seeing something - you're seeing the different way Windows 7 opens its windows vs. older kernels.  What I'm saying is that you are making a mountain out of a molehill.  It is easily negated by disabling that one checkbox.  This thread of over 100 posts is laughable based on the fact that disabling that option puts things back the way they were in Windows 2000, basically.

    Look at how metrosexual you're being about what is essentially a non-starter.  You had to go FRAME BY FRAME and analyze the video to even notice a problem.  What does that tell you?

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  3. Anonymous
    2009-12-14T02:02:54+00:00

    Display models at stores are always going to be horrible.  They don't get maintained, they're left running for extended periods and they have crapware installed.

    My Windows 7 is running on its own partition, paging file is on a separate partition, no performance related issues that I didn't initiate or was unaware of (i.e. virus scan).  Definitely no window animation issue...none. You can tell from my video that my experience is NOTHING like some of those other YouTube where it's just lagging when you open or close; that's a performance issue OR they don't have a graphics card that can handle that sufficiently. 

    Some of you have to understand...the reason Vista was so taxing had to do with how they were handling screen output and background processes.  In Vista these items were at the forefront, and Aero in particular was a beast.  In Windows 7 as much as possible has been offloaded to the GPU, which is why the performance is faster, but it's also the reason you might be experiencing these types of things, especially on the Intel integrated chipsets vs. dedicated nVidia or ATI chipsets.

    I can say without a doubt that you are absolutely wrong.

    I have a laptop that has a Geforce 260GTX as well as a desktop that has the same video card. Do you mean to tell me that both these video cards are insufficient to handle Aero?

    I have installed this on more than 10 systems, each running current state of the art hardware, with the latest drivers, and EACH OF THEM DISPLAY THE PROBLEM. Your computer displays it too, no matter how much you say it doesn't. The problem with most videos shot via video camera is that the refresh rate is TOO SLOW to grab the frames where you will actually see the stutter; you're eyes can capture information much faster than a camera will, so it won't display that well on the video, unless you actually have a video camera that is HD capable of capturing at more than 60Hz, which I'm sure you don't.

    The video you posted also is unfortunately too shaky. Frames such as the ones we are talking about that are missing can be missed when the camera is not held steady. I have downloaded your video and am going to slow it down by 10x to verify if that lag is still there.

    Ok, I downloaded your video and slowed it down frame by frame to see if the problem is there.

    The answer is: YES. Even on your own video, the problem is displayed.

    As I stated previously, the camera is a bit shaky, so it doesn't do a very good job of capturing the "snap", lag, or whatever you want to call it. However, this lag/snap is CLEARLY visible when you open the first window in your video, Virtualdub. When I play it in slow motion, frame by frame, I can clearly see when the window is close to "finishing" opening, it snaps open. It is most clear here, since you shake the camera the least at this point.

    If you'd like to give this another shot, try putting the camera on a tripod, and, this time around, open and CLOSE windows in succession. I can slow that one down again, and I'll bet you the problem is still there.

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  4. Anonymous
    2009-12-14T01:18:44+00:00

    Display models at stores are always going to be horrible.  They don't get maintained, they're left running for extended periods and they have crapware installed.

    My Windows 7 is running on its own partition, paging file is on a separate partition, no performance related issues that I didn't initiate or was unaware of (i.e. virus scan).  Definitely no window animation issue...none. You can tell from my video that my experience is NOTHING like some of those other YouTube where it's just lagging when you open or close; that's a performance issue OR they don't have a graphics card that can handle that sufficiently. 

    Some of you have to understand...the reason Vista was so taxing had to do with how they were handling screen output and background processes.  In Vista these items were at the forefront, and Aero in particular was a beast.  In Windows 7 as much as possible has been offloaded to the GPU, which is why the performance is faster, but it's also the reason you might be experiencing these types of things, especially on the Intel integrated chipsets vs. dedicated nVidia or ATI chipsets.

    I can say without a doubt that you are absolutely wrong.

    I have a laptop that has a Geforce 260GTX as well as a desktop that has the same video card. Do you mean to tell me that both these video cards are insufficient to handle Aero?

    I have installed this on more than 10 systems, each running current state of the art hardware, with the latest drivers, and EACH OF THEM DISPLAY THE PROBLEM. Your computer displays it too, no matter how much you say it doesn't. The problem with most videos shot via video camera is that the refresh rate is TOO SLOW to grab the frames where you will actually see the stutter; you're eyes can capture information much faster than a camera will, so it won't display that well on the video, unless you actually have a video camera that is HD capable of capturing at more than 60Hz, which I'm sure you don't.

    The video you posted also is unfortunately too shaky. Frames such as the ones we are talking about that are missing can be missed when the camera is not held steady. I have downloaded your video and am going to slow it down by 10x to verify if that lag is still there.

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