Gentlemen,
"What we have here is a failure to communicate"
1. "Windows 7 didn't "break" anything"
Hogwash. If you don't believe me, go to WinXP Pro, open any folder you want (except the desktop folder) change the folder view options to "show hidden files and folders" and "Show Protected System Files", select "Apply to Folders" and let the fun begin.
If you go to any folder with hidden/system folders/files, you will see them, including the infamous "Desktop.ini" files. However, if you go to the Desktop, hidden files and folders are NOT shown, especially the desktop.ini files.
Do the same thing in either Vista or 7 and - even if you do NOT select "apply to folders", the changes are automagically applied to every folder - INCLUDING the desktop!
2. "If you clear your temporary internet files, the icons are removed with the other temp data. It's been said many times here, although this page is getting a bit out of hand"
I do that almost continuously - and it does not help.
3. (Paraphrase) "Things are the same now as they were in XP"
Unfortunately, I do not seem to be able to attach files, or embed pictures. I have four JPG's that (as soon as MediaFire's site comes back on-line), I will upload and post the link so that you folks can download these JPG's and examine the evidence for
yourselves.
I have:
- Set everything to the same size ("small" on Win 7), and the screens to the same resolution (1152 x 864) and have the same icons on both of them (mostly - I am migrating my wife to the Win7 box and it's still being built up.)
- Created two screen-shots of the entirety of both desktops so they can be compared "apples to apples".
- I have selected four identical icons from each desktop and have grouped them together so that they can be compared. They are:
https://www.accessline.com/login.asp
http://www.superpages.com
http://cbworks.coldwellbanker.com
http://www.weather.com
Do the following:
- Using WinXP Pro, open Internet Explorer 8, navigate to each page in turn and perform a File --> Send --> Send to Desktop.
- Note the appearance of the icons:
(a) All icons fill the icon boundaries, though some may be a bit fuzzy as a result.
(b) Two icons - the "Superpages" icon and the "Accessline" icon have transparent backgrounds - that is they are not bounded by a box
3. Using Win7 Pro, or Win7 Home Premium, (they both exhibit this issue), perform the same steps as noted above using IE-8.
4. Note the appearance of the icons:
(a) All icons are now small pictures in a larger white box that is the original size of the icon boundaries in XP.
(b) Neither the Superpages nor the Accessline icons have a transparent background.
I would like multiple viewers/posters here to try this experiment and report results.
Notes:
- Both systems were set to the same video resolution. The icon sizes and spacings are nearly identical - and are set to the system defaults for these particular resolutions.
- Both systems are up-to-date with the latest-and-greatest service-packs, updates, etc, etc. etc. as per Windows / Microsoft Update as of this instant date.
- The WinXP system is a 32 bit system.
- The Win7 system is a 64 bit system.
(I have noticed the same issue on 32 bit installations of Win7 on native 32 bit systems.)
- I cannot testify reliably about this effect on Vista - 32 or 64 bit - as after I used it for about a week, (it being a total fuster-cluck), I took it out behind the shed with a .22 pistol and put it out of it's misery.
PLEASE do not just blow me off as an uncircumsized noob that can't find the "any" key.
Repeating the same line - "It ain't broke!" - isn't solving the problem. Sure, I could buy software that "fixes" the problem, or hunt down "improved" icons. I could also down-rev to XP, or dump the whole shebang and load up Ubuntu as well. Unfortunately,
the stuff my wife does would be difficult to migrate to Ubuntu - not impossible, it could be done - I just have better things to do with my time than try to fix Microsoft's mistakes.
Please try the steps I outlined above and - if possible - post screen-shots of the results, or upload them to someplace where they can be retrieved. I will do the same and post the link here when my upload site comes back on-line.
What say ye?
Jim