Windows detects USB GPS as Serial Ballpoint - please suggest permanent modification to prevent any serial mouse detection

We're connected now with Linked In.  Good thought - thanks.

We're now using Ethernet / Serial converters whenever we can.  Expensive and needless, but really it does seem to put the beast at bay - I'll send you a bit more detail on Linked in.

It was worth a shot.

Yeah I recently asked a scale company to try and change their baud rate from 4800 to 9600 hoping that my theory was correct, and alas I ended up with egg on my face when the dreaded "cereal mouse" still crept out of it's hole a day or 2 later.

I just disable the device in the device manager of windows XP and windows 7 but unfortunately it seems something occurs that kicks it back into existence usually around the most inconvenient time.

I sent you a colleage request in Linkedin.

Of course we also write Weigh Scale software!  If you are interested in chatting outside this forum let me know.

We get this at both 9600 baud and 2400 baud.  We very rarely use 4800, usually these days we set the indicator to 9600 baud.  Sending multiple letter "M"s mixed with a few other letters at 9600 baud seems to trigger the problem almost all the time.  Another person (somewhere in this thread) said that sending lots of "0" also triggers the problem. 

I haven't done extensive testing for rates over 9600 baud, so I can't answer your question.  I would actually think that higher speeds would be as bad or maybe worse, since as I recollect Serial Mice usually run at fairly high speeds.

Per all of you who are having trouble with this in XP, open up the boot.ini in c:\ and add  /NoSerialMouse right after (no space) the /fastdetect command.  This should do it.  It is a huge nuisance but solvable.

Any idea where to find the boot.ini file?

I am running XP with SP3

Regards

Don

This issue has indeed been around for many years. Below is a workaround I have been using since Windows 2000 with perfect results every time. I was hoping the issue was resolved in Windows 7 so i could eliminate these steps in my installs but I guess my luck is that good!

Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - Q283063

Serial Device May Be Detected as a Serial Mouse in Windows 2000

The information in this article applies to:

• Microsoft Windows 2000 Server, versions SP1, SP2
• Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced Server, versions SP1, SP2
• Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional, versions SP1, SP2

IMPORTANT: This article contains information about modifying the registry. Before you modify the registry, make sure to back it up and make sure that you understand how to restore the registry if a problem occurs. For information about how to back up, restore, and edit the registry, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: Q256986Description of the Microsoft Windows Registry

SYMPTOMS When you are using a Windows 2000-based computer, a serial device may be detected as a serial mouse.

CAUSE This problem can occur because most of the devices that are detected as serial mice that are some other type of device constantly send data to the serial port which causes the detection code to incorrectly identify the device as a serial mouse.

RESOLUTION To resolve this problem, obtain the latest service pack for Windows 2000 and then update the registry as instructed below. For additional information about the latest service pack for Windows 2000, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: Q260910How to Obtain the Latest Windows 2000 Service Pack

The English-language version of this fix should have the following file attributes or later: Date Time Version Size File name

1/17/2001 03:48p 5.0.2195.3156 13,936 Serenum.sys

WARNING: If you use Registry Editor incorrectly, you may cause serious problems that may require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot guarantee that you can solve problems that result from using Registry Editor incorrectly. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.

After you apply the hotfix or the service pack, follow these steps:

1. Start Registry Editor (Regedt32.exe). To do this, click Start, click Run, type in the Open box, and then press ENTER.
2. For instructions on how to identify the Enumerator, DeviceID, and InstanceIDfor your COM Port refer to the More Information section below: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Enum\\Device Parameters

Note that there is one for each port. 3. On the Edit menu, click Add Value, and then add the following registry value: Value Name: SkipEnumerations
Data Type: REG_DWORD
Radix: Hexidecimal
Value: 0 through FFFFFFFE

Note that a value of zero (0) disables the feature and device detection can resume. Each time that Plug and Play does an enumeration, it counts down one, and when it counts down to zero, it re-enumerates the hardware and then starts counting down again from the registry value. When you reboot the computer, Plug and Play starts the count again at the value that you typed. 4. Quit Registry Editor.

WORKAROUND To work around this problem, allow the device to be detected incorrectly, use Device Manager to disable the device that is not the port to which the device is attached, and then reboot your computer. When you do this, the port works correctly and the incorrectly detected device is disabled.

STATUS Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft products that are listed at the beginning of this article. This problem was first corrected in Windows 2000 Service Pack 3. After you install Windows 2000 Service Pack 3, you must edit the registry as described in the "Resolution" section of this article.

Note that Microsoft Windows XP also includes the fixed Serenum.sys file; you must edit the registry as described in the "Resolution" section for Windows XP also.

MORE INFORMATION For additional information about how to obtain a hotfix for Windows 2000 Datacenter Server, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: Q265173The Datacenter Program and Windows 2000 Datacenter Server Product For additional information about how to install multiple hotfixes with only one reboot, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: Q296861Use QChain.exe to Install Multiple Hotfixes with One Reboot Applications may fail to initialize the GPS device once the SkipEnumerations change has been added to the registry even though the GPS is no longer being detected as a Serial mouse. This can be related to Ghosted serial devices still loading. For additional information about how to locate and uninstall Ghosted devices from mice and other pointing devices, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: Q241257Device Manager Does Not Display Devices Not Currently Present

Motherboard based COM Ports First, you need to determine which HAL is being used before you can make the registry change. To determine which HAL is running on the system open Device Manager and expand Computer.

• If the system has an ACPI HAL you can add the SkipEnumerations Reg_DWORD Value shown in Step 3 above to the serial port of choice located under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\ACPI\PNP0501*Port#*\Device Parameters

• If the system has a Standard (Non-ACPI HAL) you can add the SkipEnumerations Reg_DWORD Value shown in Step 3 above to the serial port of choice located under

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root\PNP0501*Port#\Device Parameters

NOTE: Port# = InstanceID COM Ports on Serial Port Add-On Cards Discovering the correct location in the registry for the port is more involved. Below is a method that will help to you locate and identify each component.

1. Open Device Manager and view the Com Port's Device Description, or "Friendly Name".
2. Locate the Setupapi.log in C:\Winnt and search the setupapi.log for the Device Description, exactly as it appears in Device Manger, of the Device hanging off the Port in question.
3. Once the device is located in the setupapi.log slowly scroll down until you locate the entry "Doing copy-only install of Enumerator\DeviceID\InstanceID." For Example: Doing copy-only install of MF\PCI#VEN_131F&DEV_2052&SUBSYS_2052131F&REV_00\3&1E67C166&0&50#CHILD0003

Enumerator = MF

DeviceID = PCI#VEN_131F&DEV_2052&SUBSYS_2052131F&REV_0

InstanceID = 3&1E67C166&0&50#CHILD0003

NOTE: The SkipEnumerations Reg_DWORD Value is to be added under the \Device Parameter's Key for each particular InstanceID. 4. Open regedt32.exe and expand HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum5. Expand the Enumerator, locate and expand the DeviceID then expand the InstanceID below that. This is the Device ID for the specific port of the Serial Card where the Value is to be added.

When you attach a device to a serial port on a computer that is running Windows 2000 and reboot the computer, the operating system enumerates devices and looks for new or removed hardware when the computer starts. During this detection phase, the computer detects the serial ports and tries to determine what type of device is attached. Typically, the software detects a serial mouse as attached when it is some other type of hardware device, such as a Global Positioning System (GPS) devise. 5. Expand the Enumerator, locate and expand the DeviceID then expand the InstanceID below that. This is the Device ID for the specific port of the Serial Card where the Value is to be added.

For additional information about how to install Windows 2000 and Windows 2000 hotfixes at the same time, click the article number below to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base: Q249149Installing Microsoft Windows 2000 and Windows 2000 Hotfixes