Build 21277 is out as an Optional Update

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2020-12-11T00:29:03+00:00
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  1. Anonymous
    2020-12-22T22:17:40+00:00

    On my primary system right now so can't confirm exact number but was either 457.51 or 456.71 offered through Windows Update.  I had been running the 460.20 over the last few updates and that driver didn't allow me to change to higher refresh rate, the older one did.  I didn't try the newer one from Nvidia on my Insider one, but am running that version on my Primary system with no issues.  I will have to boot back to the Insider drive and try the 460.79 one.

    edit - running 456.71 from Windows Update, was running 460.20 and was offered the older one as an optional driver "update"

    edit 2 - Now running newest driver from Nvidia 460.79, am able to run my 240 Hz refresh rate with no issues.

    @David Vair, 

    Just F.Y.I.

    There is a bug in Skype that was introduced with Nvidia Drivers 460.79 and 460.89 (Now with Hot Fix 460.97).

    I could reproduce the problem consistently with my Dell XPS 8930 and Nvidia RTX 2060.

    I had to go back to Driver 457.51 to eliminate the problem.

    See my last post on this thread:

    Video on Skype turns to black and white after a couple of seconds - Microsoft Community

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  2. Anonymous
    2020-12-26T21:42:40+00:00
    1. I hadn't given this much concern before this discussion.

    Cheers,

    Drew

    On a bright note, if something is actually broken, it works in your favor of clear rather than stuck on blur.

    That would be frustrating  :-)

    @Johnny55, @Drew1903,

    Just to confirm the different behavior I did an experiment myself.

    I usually don't play with Hyper-V because MS wants yet a separate license even for testing the damn insider builds. 😜

    Also Running on a Virtual machine is much slower that running on a real one.

    Anyway I setup Hyper-V on one machine (MSI GT70-0NC host running 20H2 Build 19042.685) and did a clean install of 21277.1000 on a Virtual Machine guest. The behavior on Hyper-V is sure different than the behavior on a real machine, it looks like with Hyper-V, the VM guest is bypassing the policy and shows clear logon background regardless of the policy or the registry settings. 

    The question I have now is:

    Was this intentional or just a mistake, why is the Hyper-V guest not conforming to the policy and/or registry settings ?

    The same clean install of 21277.1000 on a real machine behaves correctly according to the policy settings.

    Hyper-V Clear background on logon regardless of the policy:

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  3. Drew - 810 Reputation points
    2020-12-27T00:36:14+00:00

    Well, oh my you went through heaps to confirm (it would seem) what I'd been saying all the while. Wow 😲 

    As to WHY it has started not long ago being focused regardless of settings, couldn't explain nor was I, really, trying to have one. It made no sense, so I'd left it at that.

    Anyway, you've seen it for yourself, 1st-hand.

    However, personally, having it NOT blurry is fine by me.  Whether I make it happen or it comes as a complete mystery, I'll take it 🤣

    But, yes, 'tis this of what I spoke 😉

    What is profoundly interesting is demonstrating that it is peculiar to a VM; that a normal machine has normal behaviour... that it is a (Hyper-V) VM thing & NOT an IB thing❗  Previously, could only say it was not a 20H2 thing. Ergo, this narrows the behaviour down, in a way.  Why it happens with a vm 🤷‍♂️ (Just) Good to know it is not a bug in the IB.

    NB: I am aware of the short-comings of a vm.  I, have, also, done beta-testing of Windows OSs as dual-boot (triple briefly) & on thier own separate physical drives & other arrangements or devices. The first I worked on was Vista, then, 7, 8 & 10.  We are, also, having to trick Hyper-V VMs to do Enhanced View properly; didn't until fairly recently... fun with 'puters 😂 Occasionally I consider going back to putting the IB on its own dedicated physical drive, again. Main reason I've opted to stay with the vm is it's so damned easy to 'compare' IB things to the Host machine OS, basically, being able to see / work in either or both all basically at the same time; dual boot doesn't allow that. I have a PC & a laptop, but I don't want the laptop as an unsupported system, so, I won't flip that to an IB.  Not sure you care about my explaining but there you have it, anyway 😁

    Cheers,

    DrewImage

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  4. Anonymous
    2020-12-27T01:10:52+00:00

    Drew, 

    I think the whole idea was to change the default to have a clear background on logon as a default instead of the opposite, but that was supposed to happen for both real machines or VM and for Hyper-V VM too.

    When they made the first change attempt in that direction MS screwed up and it was only partially working as I described with build 20215,  then with subsequent builds they ended up reverting back to the original setting (With the default being blurred).

    For some mysterious reason that did not happen with Hyper-V environment. 

    The behavior should adhere to the settings in both real or virtual machines, but currently it is not.

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  5. Drew - 810 Reputation points
    2020-12-27T01:55:14+00:00

    Correct.  There often is a gap between what should be & what is 😉 

    I think we've both lived through the various phases.  And for a while there wasn't consistency in IBs with this nor are IB VMs, now, following settings, which, certainly isn't right AND are not blurred, aside from whatever the default is supposed to be.

    Where it gets hazy is whether to call it an OS "bug" if only manifests itself in a vm environment.

    Cheers,

    Drew****

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