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I created all 5 installation ISO files for all 5 Builds, but only 22557 contains all the system Apps required for a full clean install, the other 4 are missing all the basic Windows and System Apps needed for a functional system. Also, the App required for opening Windows Security (Microsoft.SecHeatlthUI) is missing, all this makes the resulting system unusable.
Last one on 22557.
Microsoft.SecHealthUI Microsoft.SecHealthUI_1000.22557.1.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
I noticed another issue common to all the Ni builds, if they are used for an upgrade or in-place they may only work correctly if they are done online allowing the check for updates.
If I use the option "Change how Setup download updates" to "Not right now", the upgrade or update in place still completes, but it creates a problem on subsequent W.U.
In this case W.U. goes in a loop trying to Download and Install the same Build over and over. Error 0xc1900401 is logged in that case.
I could not find a way out of that loop.
If I do the same upgrade or update in place online letting the Setup check for updates, as recommended, the process may complete correctly without subsequent W.U. loop issues, but the behavior is inconsistent depending on how the previous update was done.
The official MS Insider ISO 22579 includes all the required Apps and the Microsoft.SecHealthUI which is needed for opening Security.
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@Johnny_55,
This seems to confirm that for every build we will need to download an updated set of Apps.
Or at least the ones that are changed or added with each new Build.
These below are in the Apps folder created with the scripts for 22579 and 22581.
It still going to be extra pain with each build to create a valid ISO.
Typical MS = "Office for complication of simple affairs" 🤣
Hi Sibro,
Here is another experiment.
Downloaded and Built 22579.1 ISO from uupdump and then repeated the upgrade from 19044.1620 to 22579.1.
This one is also missing Widgets like it did with the 22581 ISO.
Something is missing comparing to the MS official ISO 22579.1 which got the Widgets on the same upgrade with no problem:
Upgrade from 19044.1620 with uupdump ISO 22579, no Widgets:
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on 4/3/2022
OS build 22579.1
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22579.1.0
Same upgrade on same machine with MS official ISO 22579, no issues with Widgets:
Looks like the level of Widows Web Experience Pack in the ISO is a low version .
Should be 521.20060.315.0, but what they add in the ISO is 421.20050.505.0
I'll have to try to see if it can be updated or reinstalled to the latest version.
Hi Sibro,
As I said earlier, looks like the level of Widows Web Experience Pack in the ISO is a low version.
Should be 521.20060.315.0, but what they add in the ISO is 421.20050.505.0
Found the link to install Web Experience pack and got the latest level.
That fixed the Widgets, after a reboot it was working properly.
I think the version included from uupdump is older, also it was not even installed after the upgrade.
Had to find it on the Web and then install it manually, you cannot find it just searching the MS Store and it does not show on the list of installed Apps either. 😝
https://www.microsoft.com/store/productId/9MSSGKG348SP
After fixing the Widgets problem, I updated to 22581.200 with W.U.
but at this point, since I fixed the issue, I could have used also the ISO 22581.200 from uupdump.
You will not see the problem upgrading from 22000.593, because the Windows Web Experience Pack is already installed and at the right level.
It may get updated from the store with the other Apps if needed. It is weird that it is not listed in the installed Apps, I have to use PowerShell to find it.
This was upgraded from 19044.1620 to 22581.200 and it is on Dev Channel.
MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_521.20060.315.0_x64__cw5n1h2txyewy
Curious that I find 2 versions in 2 different machines both working and up to date.
This was on one upgraded from 22000.593 to 22581.200 and it is on Beta channel.
MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_521.20060.135.0_x64__cw5n1h2txyewy
Found the link to install Web Experience pack and got the latest level.
That fixed the Widgets, after a reboot it was working properly.
Detective fg2001 strikes again! 👏👏👏
Found the link to install Web Experience pack and got the latest level.
That fixed the Widgets, after a reboot it was working properly.
Detective fg2001 strikes again! 👏👏👏
@Sibro.o,
Another difference, between Dev and Beta, even if they are at the same Build level 22581.200 right now, they have 2 different versions for the WebExperience Pack:
Dev:
MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_521.20060.315.0_x64__cw5n1h2txyewy
Beta:
MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_521.20060.135.0_x64__cw5n1h2txyewy
This below is the old one that does not work and is installed with the uupdump ISO:
MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_421.20050.505.0_x64__cw5n1h2txyewy
What makes it even more puzzling is that the same level App is installed with MS official ISO 22579.1, but in that case Widgets work right away after the upgrade.
Hard to say what else is different that prevents Widgets from working in one case, but not the other?
Also, the WebExperience is at the same level on a clean install and it works fine in that case. 🤷♂️
Perhaps because it gets updated right away to this one, before the final update?
MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_421.20070.95.0_x64__cw5n1h2txyewy