Clean Install of Windows 11 Ni Preview Build works with Build 22557, but not with 22563, 22567, 22572, 22581, 22593, 25115

Anonymous
2022-03-11T03:48:13+00:00

I created all 5 installation ISO files for all 5 Builds, but only 22557 contains all the system Apps required for a full clean install, the other 4 are missing all the basic Windows and System Apps needed for a functional system. Also, the App required for opening Windows Security (Microsoft.SecHeatlthUI) is missing, all this makes the resulting system unusable.

Last one on 22557.

Microsoft.SecHealthUI Microsoft.SecHealthUI_1000.22557.1.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

I noticed another issue common to all the Ni builds, if they are used for an upgrade or in-place they may only work correctly if they are done online allowing the check for updates.

If I use the option "Change how Setup download updates" to "Not right now", the upgrade or update in place still completes, but it creates a problem on subsequent W.U.

In this case W.U. goes in a loop trying to Download and Install the same Build over and over. Error 0xc1900401 is logged in that case.

I could not find a way out of that loop.

If I do the same upgrade or update in place online letting the Setup check for updates, as recommended, the process may complete correctly without subsequent W.U. loop issues, but the behavior is inconsistent depending on how the previous update was done.

The official MS Insider ISO 22579 includes all the required Apps and the Microsoft.SecHealthUI which is needed for opening Security.

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  1. Johnny55 5,155 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2022-04-01T05:43:47+00:00

    Most of that was explained with the different choices. As you mentioned all one really needs is Store and Security as on any clean install, one is always updating for me like 33 apps. All those additional apps are listed in the Library of Store anyhow, so it comes down to how many one wants to include in the ISO image.

    The files that I grabbed from their forum, it uses a script to add the apps after the image is completed. That provides another way around this as well. Will be interesting to see which route abodi uses, as this is only required for NI builds so far.

    Regards.

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  2. Anonymous
    2022-04-01T06:02:39+00:00

    Most of that was explained with the different choices. As you mentioned all one really needs is Store and Security as on any clean install, one is always updating for me like 33 apps. All those additional apps are listed in the Library of Store anyhow, so it comes down to how many one wants to include in the ISO image.

    The files that I grabbed from their forum, it uses a script to add the apps after the image is completed. That provides another way around this as well. Will be interesting to see which route abodi uses, as this is only required for NI builds so far.

    Regards.

    Hi Johnny,

    Still unclear how W.U, is downloading the updated Windows Apps with the new Builds.

    I'd like to be able to build the ISO from the files downloaded by W.U. without having to look for the Apps somewhere else.

    How is W.U. getting the new version of the basic Windows Apps?

    They must be downloading them one way or another?

    What we used to do before these Ni builds, was just pointing the converter script to the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download and everything needed was in there, but not anymore with these new Nickel stuff. 😡

    See below the different size of the ISO for Windows 11 Pro en-us.

    The first is without Apps, the other three:

    AppsLevel 1 with 15 added Apps

    AppsLevel 2 with 19 added Apps

    AppsLevel 3 with 22 added Apps

    Image

    AppsLevel 0 with 58 added Apps

    Image

    The lists of the Apps included with each level are on my previous posts.

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  3. Johnny55 5,155 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2022-04-01T19:57:44+00:00

    Hi fg,

    Thank you for all your investigative research in these ISO images. Appreciate all your hard effort into this. Recently I have cut back on making images. I generally get the near monthly MSDN versions so I would be using one of these images on any working PC and update with CU offline anyhow.

    Not too pleased with the forced online section, as this may cause me issues in all the virtual machines. I still setup an offline account, and disconnect internet at the "Hi" screen on clean installs. Guess I will find out on the next VMware version upgrade if this actually works or if I will have to create new vm's.

    Have a great weekend my friend.

    Regards,

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  4. Anonymous
    2022-04-01T20:17:37+00:00

    Hi fg,

    Thank you for all your investigative research in these ISO images. Appreciate all your hard effort into this. Recently I have cut back on making images. I generally get the near monthly MSDN versions so I would be using one of these images on any working PC and update with CU offline anyhow.

    Not too pleased with the forced online section, as this may cause me issues in all the virtual machines. I still setup an offline account, and disconnect internet at the "Hi" screen on clean installs. Guess I will find out on the next VMware version upgrade if this actually works or if I will have to create new vm's.

    Have a great weekend my friend.

    Regards,

    Hi Johnny,

    Just once more, MS seems to be going backward instead of improving the process.

    Looks like April Fools' Day! 🤐

    Have a nice weekend.

    Regards.

    B.T.W.

    If I do a clean install with the ISO built with AppsLevel = 1.

    The MS Store does not find anything to update except for itself.

    You still have to download many of the basic Apps manually from the MS Store including Mail, Notepad, FeedBackHub or anything else that is commonly used.

    A different story if the same ISO is used for upgrading, in that case the Apps from previous build are there and may be updated by MS Store when checking for updates.

    With the ISO built with AppsLevel = 0, everything is there on a clean install including Widgets which I think needs one of the Apps not included in AppsLevel = 1.

    Probably the MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience which cannot be installed from MS Store.

    MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_421.20070.95.0_x64__cw5n1h2txyewy

    Then it gets updated to this:

    MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_521.20060.315.0_x64__cw5n1h2txyewy

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  5. Anonymous
    2022-04-02T07:12:57+00:00

    Hi guys,

    FYI, UUPdump script is working normally.

    All apps are there on a clean install without any intervention.

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