Clean Install of Windows 11 Ni Preview Build works with Build 22557, but not with 22563, 22567, 22572, 22581, 22593, 25115

Most of that was explained with the different choices. As you mentioned all one really needs is Store and Security as on any clean install, one is always updating for me like 33 apps. All those additional apps are listed in the Library of Store anyhow, so it comes down to how many one wants to include in the ISO image.

The files that I grabbed from their forum, it uses a script to add the apps after the image is completed. That provides another way around this as well. Will be interesting to see which route abodi uses, as this is only required for NI builds so far.

Regards.

Hi Johnny,

Still unclear how W.U, is downloading the updated Windows Apps with the new Builds.

I'd like to be able to build the ISO from the files downloaded by W.U. without having to look for the Apps somewhere else.

How is W.U. getting the new version of the basic Windows Apps?

They must be downloading them one way or another?

What we used to do before these Ni builds, was just pointing the converter script to the C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download and everything needed was in there, but not anymore with these new Nickel stuff. 😡

See below the different size of the ISO for Windows 11 Pro en-us.

The first is without Apps, the other three:

AppsLevel 1 with 15 added Apps

AppsLevel 2 with 19 added Apps

AppsLevel 3 with 22 added Apps

AppsLevel 0 with 58 added Apps

The lists of the Apps included with each level are on my previous posts.

Most of that was explained with the different choices. As you mentioned all one really needs is Store and Security as on any clean install, one is always updating for me like 33 apps. All those additional apps are listed in the Library of Store anyhow, so it comes down to how many one wants to include in the ISO image.

The files that I grabbed from their forum, it uses a script to add the apps after the image is completed. That provides another way around this as well. Will be interesting to see which route abodi uses, as this is only required for NI builds so far.

Regards.

It was much quicker to create the working ISO that way using both scripts. Tried with the parser and integrator listed on site, it cut it down to 58 files, but the integration took forever as it was integrating each of the 58 files one by one into an already done ISO. Just installing that one now.

Regards,

Hi Johnny,

With converter v79 I just tried to build one ISO 22581.1 with only AppsLevel = 1, it only included 15 Apps instead of 58 as AppsLevel = 0.

It has all the basic apps that are needed for a functional system.

AppsLevel = 1 has 15 Apps:

Just tried a clean install with it right now, it worked fine, have Store and Security, the other apps can be downloaded from the store.

In this case I don't have Widgets in Taskbar Settings, while it was there when I used the previous ISO built with AppsLevel = 0.

Not sure which App is needed to get Widgets in the Taskbar settings? Perhaps Client.WebExperience ?

AppsLevel = 2 has 19 Apps:

AppsLevel = 3 has 22 Apps:

Extra work and time consuming to download the apps manually.

But in this case, I can leave out what I don't want. 🤣

@Sibro.o,

Used the same 22581.200 ISO with Apps built with converter to Upgrade from 19044.1620 to 22581.200.

Everything worked fine, nothing missing.

Edition Windows 11 Pro

Version 22H2

Installed on ‎3/‎30/‎2022

OS build 22581.200

Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22581.200.0

MS Store updated over 20 Apps.

Edit:

One minor difference, clean install versus upgrade:

Clean install got the Widgets in taskbar settings.

Upgrade from Windows 10 19044.1620 to 22581.200 did not get Widgets. 🤷‍♂️

Maybe it requires AppsLevel 3 to include Widgets, I used the default set to 0 when I built the ISO, so it should include everything that is in level 3.

Not sure why widgets are missing on upgrade from Windows 10.

The question remains on how they update the Apps for the new Build level with W.U. ?

They have to download the updates one way or another. 😎

IDK, maybe that is what the Update Stack Package does, or the Online Service Experience Pack.

I doubt every single app needs updating with each new build.

Hi Sibro,

Built an ISO from uup files with Updates and the Apps for 22581.200 Windows 11 Pro.

The clean install worked without any issues and all the stuff needed is there.

The MS Store still finds 29 updates after the installation.

Not something I would like to do for every Build. 😒

As Johnny suggested for now it is a workaround.

Hopefully they will get a way of Building a working ISO using the files downloaded by W.U.

We'll see what abbodi1406 comes up with.