Clean Install of Windows 11 Ni Preview Build works with Build 22557, but not with 22563, 22567, 22572, 22581, 22593, 25115

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I created all 5 installation ISO files for all 5 Builds, but only 22557 contains all the system Apps required for a full clean install, the other 4 are missing all the basic Windows and System Apps needed for a functional system. Also, the App required for opening Windows Security (Microsoft.SecHeatlthUI) is missing, all this makes the resulting system unusable.

Last one on 22557.

Microsoft.SecHealthUI Microsoft.SecHealthUI_1000.22557.1.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

I noticed another issue common to all the Ni builds, if they are used for an upgrade or in-place they may only work correctly if they are done online allowing the check for updates.

If I use the option "Change how Setup download updates" to "Not right now", the upgrade or update in place still completes, but it creates a problem on subsequent W.U.

In this case W.U. goes in a loop trying to Download and Install the same Build over and over. Error 0xc1900401 is logged in that case.

I could not find a way out of that loop.

If I do the same upgrade or update in place online letting the Setup check for updates, as recommended, the process may complete correctly without subsequent W.U. loop issues, but the behavior is inconsistent depending on how the previous update was done.

The official MS Insider ISO 22579 includes all the required Apps and the Microsoft.SecHealthUI which is needed for opening Security.

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Anonymous

2022-05-01T22:43:20+00:00

The sign in options were showing before the sign in to MSA screen, now they show after the screen asking to sign in.

To the best of my recollection, it has been the same since build 22563 or thereabouts.

On the same page the choice to sign in with MSA or Sign-in options, then you can select offline account

Perhaps, but there is an extra screen before getting to "Let's add your account"

Previously it was getting to that one directly.

I only see this one below on latest Ni Builds, not on 22000.xxx nor on 22504.1

22504.1 goes directly to this screen without showing the one above.

Also, the wording here was "Let's add you Microsoft account" instead of "Let's add your account"

I did so many clean installs and I just noticed the differences in the flow of the screens without knowing any valid reason for the changes. 🤐
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Anonymous

2022-05-01T21:40:27+00:00

The sign in options were showing before the sign in to MSA screen, now they show after the screen asking to sign in.

To the best of my recollection, it has been the same since build 22563 or thereabouts.

On the same page the choice to sign in with MSA or Sign-in options, then you can select offline account
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Anonymous

2022-05-01T21:14:39+00:00

The loop on W.U. is pretty consistent on all my machines except for the cases I listed.

What can I say? 🤷‍♂️

On clean install the sign-in options to use an offline account has been moved after the Sign in with MSA screen, but it still gives the choice for an offline account.

I don't see that either, looks the same as always to me. 🤷‍♂️

You are probably using a different setup.exe.

The sign in options were showing before the sign in to MSA screen, now they show after the screen asking to sign in.
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Anonymous

2022-05-01T21:10:55+00:00

Looks like there is no way to create a valid ISO just from Software Distribution Download anymore, it is missing all the needed apps.

Have to download from UUP-dump also with last build 22610.

You only have to dl from the dump once in your case. Save a copy of the Apps folder. You can pick and choose whatever apps you want to include in the ISO. You only have to copy those Apps to your Software Distribution Download folder and you are good to go as previous. Doesn't matter if they a bit outdated as you can update later as we already have to do anyhow.

Working on my second clean install in non-compliant vm, have yet to see any issues with icons in the tray. The compliant vm was good as well as was my non-compliant laptop.

Any time I do see the loop, which is rare, it always clears out after 24 hrs. if OS is left alone for that same time.

Regards,

Hi Johnny,

Not the case, the apps version downloaded changes with every build, if I don't download the new ones I get the old versions. Good example is SecHealthUI.

I tried to wait a day to see if the W.U. loop clear, but it did not.

Anyway, it is a bug, it should not get the error at all if they checked correctly for what is already installed.

This just happened again today on a fully compliant box:

This is on a legacy BIOS box:

Already have two legacy BIOS boxes at 22610. Not easy to get to Dev after clean install of 22610 on this old box.
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Johnny55 5,155 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator

2022-05-01T19:54:02+00:00

Looks like there is no way to create a valid ISO just from Software Distribution Download anymore, it is missing all the needed apps.

Have to download from UUP-dump also with last build 22610.

You only have to dl from the dump once in your case. Save a copy of the Apps folder. You can pick and choose whatever apps you want to include in the ISO. You only have to copy those Apps to your Software Distribution Download folder and you are good to go as previous. Doesn't matter if they a bit outdated as you can update later as we already have to do anyhow.

Working on my second clean install in non-compliant vm, have yet to see any issues with icons in the tray. The compliant vm was good as well as was my non-compliant laptop.

Any time I do see the loop, which is rare, it always clears out after 24 hrs. if OS is left alone for that same time.

Regards,
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