Clean Install of Windows 11 Ni Preview Build works with Build 22557, but not with 22563, 22567, 22572, 22581, 22593, 25115

Anonymous
2022-03-11T03:48:13+00:00

I created all 5 installation ISO files for all 5 Builds, but only 22557 contains all the system Apps required for a full clean install, the other 4 are missing all the basic Windows and System Apps needed for a functional system. Also, the App required for opening Windows Security (Microsoft.SecHeatlthUI) is missing, all this makes the resulting system unusable.

Last one on 22557.

Microsoft.SecHealthUI Microsoft.SecHealthUI_1000.22557.1.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

I noticed another issue common to all the Ni builds, if they are used for an upgrade or in-place they may only work correctly if they are done online allowing the check for updates.

If I use the option "Change how Setup download updates" to "Not right now", the upgrade or update in place still completes, but it creates a problem on subsequent W.U.

In this case W.U. goes in a loop trying to Download and Install the same Build over and over. Error 0xc1900401 is logged in that case.

I could not find a way out of that loop.

If I do the same upgrade or update in place online letting the Setup check for updates, as recommended, the process may complete correctly without subsequent W.U. loop issues, but the behavior is inconsistent depending on how the previous update was done.

The official MS Insider ISO 22579 includes all the required Apps and the Microsoft.SecHealthUI which is needed for opening Security.

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  1. Anonymous
    2022-05-13T23:44:38+00:00

    I figured out what is missing and managed to work around the issue.

    Looks to me that something basic is missing in the clean install process or the way the ISO is built.

    It needs to install appinstaller before it can install SecHealthUI .appx 😑

    Good detective work as always.

    Unfortunately, I can't test this, I already went back to my working backup but I trust your conclusions.

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  2. Anonymous
    2022-05-13T23:33:25+00:00

    Hi Sibro,

    I figured out what is missing and managed to work around the issue.

    To install this app that is in the Apps folder it requires appinstaller that is also missing.

    I let the MS store update itself to the latest level, then searched for appinstaller and installed it.

    After that just clicking on the file below that was in the Apps folder created when the ISO was built, it installed the SecHealthUI at the level 1000.25115.1000.0_x64

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    Back in business, but that is quite ridiculous. 🀣🀣

    Looks to me that something basic is missing in the clean install process or the way the ISO is built.

    It needs to install appinstaller before it can install SecHealthUI .appx 😑

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  3. Anonymous
    2022-05-13T22:36:14+00:00

    Anyway, I'll try another clean install to see if I get any better outcome. 😑

    Edit:

    Got the same results with the ISO downloaded today.

    What a mess! 😝

    Yeah, same here, SecHealthUI was included in the ISO but fails to open.

    I failed to noticed on my previous clean install because I didn't even click on it, then I restored my backup of 22616 to check for in-place update/repair and never came back to 25115, didn't make a backup either.

    So looks like we're back to square one this one. πŸ˜’

    Hi again,

    Thanks for confirming, I wonder what else they have changed in the process.

    Fails to open because it is not installed properly.

    But this ISO is pretty useless for a clean install. Had the same results with the one downloaded 2 days ago.

    Time to ask abbodi1406 again. 😎

    The P.S. commands below after a clean install, show that SecHealthUI is missing.

    Get-AppxPackage -allusers | Select Name, PackageFullName

    Get-AppxPackage Microsoft.SecHealthUI -allusers | Select Name, PackageFullName

    This could be just a new bug of the clean install setup.exe for this build.

    Missing the installer for the .appx?

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  4. Anonymous
    2022-05-13T22:26:26+00:00

    Anyway, I'll try another clean install to see if I get any better outcome. 😑

    Edit:

    Got the same results with the ISO downloaded today.

    What a mess! 😝

    Yeah, same here, SecHealthUI was included in the ISO but fails to open.

    I failed to noticed on my previous clean install because I didn't even click on it, then I restored my backup of 22616 to check for in-place update/repair and never came back to 25115, didn't make a backup either.

    So looks like we're back to square one this one. πŸ˜’

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  5. Anonymous
    2022-05-13T22:13:46+00:00

    Hi fg,

    Yes, I did a clean install but don't remember having missing apps.

    I lost the original ISO so I just downloaded a new one and will try again.

    I'll let you know the results when I'm done.

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    Hi Sibro,

    Yes, I saw the same apps being added on the ISO, see list below for all the added apps, but the clean install was missing Snipping tool and other Apps that can be downloaded from the Store, but SecHealthUI was missing too on the clean install and no way to install it or reset it. The file built today is about the same size as yours

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    Adding Apps . . .

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.x64.1.3

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.x64.1.7

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Framework.x64.2.2

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.x64.1.4

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.x64.1.7

    Microsoft.NET.Native.Runtime.x64.2.2

    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.1

    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.3

    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.4

    Microsoft.UI.Xaml.x64.2.7

    Microsoft.VCLibs.x64.14.00

    Microsoft.VCLibs.x64.14.00.Desktop

    Microsoft.WindowsStore_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.StorePurchaseApp_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.People_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.BingNews_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.BingWeather_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.ZuneMusic_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.ZuneVideo_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsAlarms_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsCalculator_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsNotepad_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsTerminal_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsFeedbackHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.GetHelp_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsSoundRecorder_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.MicrosoftOfficeHub_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.ScreenSketch_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.MicrosoftStickyNotes_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.Todos_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.XboxSpeechToTextOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.GamingApp_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.XboxGameOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.XboxGamingOverlay_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.XboxIdentityProvider_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.Xbox.TCUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.Getstarted_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.Windows.Photos_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsMaps_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.PowerAutomateDesktop_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WindowsCamera_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.Paint_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WebMediaExtensions_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.RawImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.HEIFImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.HEVCVideoExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.VP9VideoExtensions_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.WebpImageExtension_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience_cw5n1h2txyewy

    Microsoft.SecHealthUI_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Clipchamp.Clipchamp_yxz26nhyzhsrt

    MicrosoftCorporationII.QuickAssist_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.YourPhone_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Microsoft.549981C3F5F10_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    MicrosoftCorporationII.MicrosoftFamily_8wekyb3d8bbwe

    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool

    Version: 10.0.25115.1000

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