I tried a clean install of 22621 with the MS official ISO.
In the sign-in options they have now eliminated the choice for an offline account.
I was forced to use the MS account.
Confirmed.
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I created all 5 installation ISO files for all 5 Builds, but only 22557 contains all the system Apps required for a full clean install, the other 4 are missing all the basic Windows and System Apps needed for a functional system. Also, the App required for opening Windows Security (Microsoft.SecHeatlthUI) is missing, all this makes the resulting system unusable.
Last one on 22557.
Microsoft.SecHealthUI Microsoft.SecHealthUI_1000.22557.1.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe
I noticed another issue common to all the Ni builds, if they are used for an upgrade or in-place they may only work correctly if they are done online allowing the check for updates.
If I use the option "Change how Setup download updates" to "Not right now", the upgrade or update in place still completes, but it creates a problem on subsequent W.U.
In this case W.U. goes in a loop trying to Download and Install the same Build over and over. Error 0xc1900401 is logged in that case.
I could not find a way out of that loop.
If I do the same upgrade or update in place online letting the Setup check for updates, as recommended, the process may complete correctly without subsequent W.U. loop issues, but the behavior is inconsistent depending on how the previous update was done.
The official MS Insider ISO 22579 includes all the required Apps and the Microsoft.SecHealthUI which is needed for opening Security.
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I tried a clean install of 22621 with the MS official ISO.
In the sign-in options they have now eliminated the choice for an offline account.
I was forced to use the MS account.
Confirmed.
@Johnny_55, @Sibro.o,
F.Y.I.
I tried a clean install of 22621 with the MS official ISO.
In the sign-in options they have now eliminated the choice for an offline account.
I was forced to use the MS account.
Hi Sibro,
My son finally got his new fancy MAC, he hated Windows 11.
Now I got this one from him and I will get rid of an old machine. 😊
Hi fg,
Yeah, you mentioned was coming, nice rig, congrats!
Hi Sibro,
My son finally got his new fancy MAC, he hated Windows 11.
Now I got this one from him and I will get rid of an old machine. 😊
Processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-11900K @ 3.50GHz 3.40 GHz
Installed RAM 64.0 GB (63.6 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
1TB NVMe SSD WDC
2TB HDD
Nvidia RTX 3060 + Intel UHD Graphics 750.
Good detective work as always.
Unfortunately, I can't test this, I already went back to my working backup but I trust your conclusions.
I just compared with a clean install of 22621, all the basic apps are installed, including SecHealthUI, Snip & sketch etc. The list in start menu is quite full.
Apparently, the installation process for the Apps is changed from 22621 to 25115, as a result many basic apps are missing on the clean install of 25115.
Easy to compare the list of installed apps showing with the P.S. command on the 2 builds, huge difference.
I still think that appinstaller makes the difference.
It shows as Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_1.17.10691.0_x64 on the P.S. command on 22621.
and Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_1.18.692.0_x64 on the P.S. command on 25115.
But after a clean install of 25115 it still shows the old version. 1.17.10691.0_x64 instead of 1.18, that maybe the whole problem.
Get-AppxPackage -allusers | Select Name, PackageFullName
We'll have to wait for another official MS ISO for Dev Builds.
In the meantime, I hope the guys at github figure out a valid solution. 🤞