Clean Install of Windows 11 Ni Preview Build works with Build 22557, but not with 22563, 22567, 22572, 22581, 22593, 25115

Anonymous
2022-03-11T03:48:13+00:00

I created all 5 installation ISO files for all 5 Builds, but only 22557 contains all the system Apps required for a full clean install, the other 4 are missing all the basic Windows and System Apps needed for a functional system. Also, the App required for opening Windows Security (Microsoft.SecHeatlthUI) is missing, all this makes the resulting system unusable.

Last one on 22557.

Microsoft.SecHealthUI Microsoft.SecHealthUI_1000.22557.1.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe

I noticed another issue common to all the Ni builds, if they are used for an upgrade or in-place they may only work correctly if they are done online allowing the check for updates.

If I use the option "Change how Setup download updates" to "Not right now", the upgrade or update in place still completes, but it creates a problem on subsequent W.U.

In this case W.U. goes in a loop trying to Download and Install the same Build over and over. Error 0xc1900401 is logged in that case.

I could not find a way out of that loop.

If I do the same upgrade or update in place online letting the Setup check for updates, as recommended, the process may complete correctly without subsequent W.U. loop issues, but the behavior is inconsistent depending on how the previous update was done.

The official MS Insider ISO 22579 includes all the required Apps and the Microsoft.SecHealthUI which is needed for opening Security.

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  1. Anonymous
    2022-05-14T00:34:58+00:00

    Good detective work as always.

    Unfortunately, I can't test this, I already went back to my working backup but I trust your conclusions.

    I just compared with a clean install of 22621, all the basic apps are installed, including SecHealthUI, Snip & sketch etc. The list in start menu is quite full.

    Apparently, the installation process for the Apps is changed from 22621 to 25115, as a result many basic apps are missing on the clean install of 25115.

    Easy to compare the list of installed apps showing with the P.S. command on the 2 builds, huge difference.

    I still think that appinstaller makes the difference.

    It shows as Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_1.17.10691.0_x64 on the P.S. command on 22621.

    and Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_1.18.692.0_x64 on the P.S. command on 25115.

    But after a clean install of 25115 it still shows the old version. 1.17.10691.0_x64 instead of 1.18, that maybe the whole problem.

    Get-AppxPackage -allusers | Select Name, PackageFullName

    We'll have to wait for another official MS ISO for Dev Builds.

    In the meantime, I hope the guys at github figure out a valid solution. 🤞

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  2. Anonymous
    2022-05-13T23:33:25+00:00

    Hi Sibro,

    I figured out what is missing and managed to work around the issue.

    To install this app that is in the Apps folder it requires appinstaller that is also missing.

    I let the MS store update itself to the latest level, then searched for appinstaller and installed it.

    After that just clicking on the file below that was in the Apps folder created when the ISO was built, it installed the SecHealthUI at the level 1000.25115.1000.0_x64

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    Back in business, but that is quite ridiculous. 🤣🤣

    Looks to me that something basic is missing in the clean install process or the way the ISO is built.

    It needs to install appinstaller before it can install SecHealthUI .appx 😡

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  3. Anonymous
    2022-05-04T17:26:09+00:00

    What we really need is for MS to release an ISO with every build or give us an official script to build it ourselves. Maybe an option on the WU page to install or download, similar to the MCT, that would be cool.

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  4. Johnny55 5,155 Reputation points Volunteer Moderator
    2022-05-04T17:14:35+00:00

    Yes, we are screwed on which way to go right now. I put up another FBH regarding the loop: Hehe, never mind, see you already upvoted, I got yours as well.

    https://aka.ms/AAgugg3

    Regards,

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  5. Anonymous
    2022-05-04T16:16:35+00:00

    Good morning, Johnny,

    Here is the answer to my comment from abbodi1406.

    I think he is right saying that W.U. does not download all the required Apps. I only found the 6 Apps showing below in SoftwareDistribution\Download when I upgraded from 22598 to 22610 using W.U. 🙃

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