Clean Install of Windows 11 Ni Preview Build works with Build 22557, but not with 22563, 22567, 22572, 22581, 22593, 25115

Good afternoon fg,

My apologies as I never took into account the Apps that do not get updated via Store. I prefer to use 3rd party to create ISO so this never comes in effect.

You are still getting all the Apps in SoftwareDistribution so you may have to combine couple folders to wimlib to create. You can figure out best way that works for you, but some copying will have to be done as I believe you point wimlib to the uup files folder.

Regards,

Hi Johnny,

That is actually the source of the original problem that started after 22557, I never get or find the apps in the SoftwareDistribution created by W.U. and that is why we have to copy the Apps folder in it before creating the ISO.

That was the original question that still remains, how is W.U. updating the Apps, if they are not downloaded and cannot be found in SoftwareDistribution? Why and how did MS change the W.U. process for new 22H2 builds?

If I search for a specific app in the folder C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\96f67d863d4234d4823cdee8752abeee

I can see that it is there, but the converter script from uupdump is not picking it up and adding it to the install.wim.

It means that MS changed the way the files are organized in the folder and the script has not been updated to the new layout for these latest builds.

I think abbodi1406 should make a new converter script to pick up the Apps that are there rather than requiring a separate Apps folder.

Seems to me that the converter script needs some more work. 😎

It should be able to do the parse of the apps that are downloaded by W.U. and get them from the same folder without having to copy over a separate Apps folder.

The bottom line is that in either case it takes much longer to build the ISO when downloading from third party or adding the Apps folder manually to C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download\96f67d863d4234d4823cdee8752abeee

The process of adding the Apps to the install.wim takes more time.

Any way to give a feedback to abbodi1406 and see if he can update the converter script to use what is already downloaded by W.U. in SoftwareDistribution like they used to do prior to Ni builds?

These are already downloaded by W.U. and are up to date, the converter script should pick those up directly.

A clean install of 25131 using 3rd party ISO works as expected, all apps are there.

Hi Johnny,

All the needed windows Apps are installed including SecHealthUI 22581 on this clean install with the ISO just Built as you suggested.

Apparently, all those Apps are not downloaded by W.U. to C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download

I wonder how they get those Apps and where they are stored during W.U. ?

It will be a pain if we have to download all that extra stuff just to build a working ISO. 😒

See the 2 files below both built with converter v79.

With the second one it did not find any of the needed Apps.

The first file below was the one built adding all the Apps merging the 2 sets of UUP files as you mentioned.

The second one was built directly from C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download after doing a W.U.

Hopefully abbodi1406 will figure out the best way for doing this.

Moving in the right direction, but not there yet. 😎

Hi Johnny,

At uupdump.net I see that they have the files needed for all the Apps but looks like the script that builds the ISO is not including all the needed parts?

Hi fg,

Regarding the discussion between you and suat.cini

I believe he used the "restore from another device option" during OOBE.

As a new device, I don't get the Store nor Settings. Did you see the screenshot? I don't have it anymore.

I get the Store and a working Settings app after running wsreset -i

Hi Sibro,

Yes, it is the same as I saw.

One slightly difference is that in my case "Settings" started working after a reboot and before I got the MS Store using wsreset -i.

Everything else was still missing and I could get some from the MS Store after installing it with wsreset -i.

This P.S. command was only returning a limited number of Apps installed.

They were also missing in the Applications folder.

Get-AppxPackage -allusers | Select Name, PackageFullName

MS Store was not in the Applications folder till I installed it.

Still no way to get Microsoft.SecHealthUI of any version.

That makes the whole exercise useless.

See last comment of Rafael Rivera in the link below, hopefully they will fix the scripts to create a usable ISO. 🤞

Rafael Rivera on Twitter: "@KariTheFinn @techosarusrex @windowsinsider Kari, where did you get your ISO from? If you created one from uupdump or uupmediacreator and do a fresh install, it'll be missing apps. This is not false information." / Twitter