System & reserved files on a secondary drive?

Anonymous
2022-10-30T02:00:47+00:00

Beta build 22623.875 & Dev build 25231.1000

System > Storage > Advance storage settings > Disk & volumes > Disk 1 > Volume name > Properties > View usage

I didn't know about this until now, is this normal? why do we need system & reserved files on a secondary drive?

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Anonymous
2022-10-31T22:34:03+00:00

Copy back a few folders at the time and keep checking to see when those 14GB start showing up in the System files. Then you can isolate which one is causing the problem.

I followed your advise and copying folder by folder does not reproduce the issue.

However, if I copy everthing at once the 14GBs come back. 🤷‍♂️

Thanks for the suggestion 👍

Done and dusted!

Good that you could clean it up.

I guess we'll never know what caused the problem in the first place.

Perhaps when you got the BSOD?

Probably when you do a clone you copy over also the problem. 🤣🤣

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  1. Anonymous
    2022-10-31T17:01:27+00:00

    Hi Sibro,

    One of the questions we had for a newly formatted NTFS empty drive:

    filesystems - Newly formatted (NTFS) external hard drive already has 'Used space'. What determines the used space's amount? Is it correlated to the HD's capacity? - Super User

    Also, found this below on another web site.

    The Disadvantages of an NTFS File System | Techwalla

    High Space Overhead The NTFS file system requires a significant amount of "space overhead" to function. Space overhead is data storage space on a drive that is devoted to the file system itself and therefore cannot be used to store data. In other words, if you format a drive with the NTFS file system, you will lose some of the storage space. According to Microsoft, "space overhead is in the form of NTFS system files that typically use at least 4 MB of drive space on a 100 MB partition." This means that 4 percent or more of your drive space is lost due to the file system's needs. As a result, Microsoft recommends that users avoid working with the NTFS file system on drive volumes that are smaller than 400MB. Attempting to load NTFS on smaller storage devices such as USB flash drive and older hard drives may result in poor performance or inadequate storage space.

    If I format the same drive with exFAT or FAT32 the used space is much less, but still not a file that you can see. �🤣🤣🤣

    Here is the same empty drive just formatted as FAT32. 96 KB versus the 142 MB of NTFS. 😎

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  2. Anonymous
    2022-10-31T07:33:09+00:00

    Hello, Sibro.o

    Welcome to Microsoft Community.

    Thanks for your inquiry, I think you may have questions about NTFS taking up a lot of space for system and file recovery.

    I think your hard disk is in NTFS format

    NTFS will take up additional space to save the recovered data when storing data. At least 4% of the space should be used

    This is the basis of NTFS format reliability

    Here are some technical documents for your reference

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/file-server/ntfs-overview?source=recommendations

    These recovery information will also be displayed in the system&reserved project together with other system files.

    I hope the above information can help you. If my understanding is wrong, please point it out, so that I can assist you better.

    Lugoo Bei|Microsoft Community Support Specialist

    Thanks for your contribution to the community!

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