>I know about the tricks around this
Its not a trick, some BIOS support direct NTFS Boot in UEFI mode.
>I don't like Rufus and had several issues before with it.
I didn't use Rufus.
>If you use DISKPART to list the partitions of those workaround UEFI:NTFS it will usually show a small FAT hidden partition (Usually after the main NTFS partition) which is used for the boot.
On my test I use diskpart to clean that USB before testing, use disk management to create simple NTFS partition (no additional hidden FAT32 partitions) and use File Explorer to copy content of mounted ISO to that USB.
>but the new ones I have, only boot from FAT.
One of those devices that boot from NTFS partition is less than year old and other two are about 7 years old.