Surface Pro 4, Screen Flickering, Shaking

Anonymous
2017-01-19T07:47:47+00:00

Hi All,

Update: Flickergate is now having a forum to bring all affected users at a single platform to plan for resolvement of issue. Please join at

 https://forum.flickergate.com

UPDATE: Check FlickerGate.com for videos of the problem and to submit your own. 

I purchased SP4 device a few months ago and it was working fine for a month. Then I noticed that when the CPU is at its max, the screen flickers a bit. Investigating further revealed that it flickers even if it is setting idle. It does not flicker if at least one of the following thing is done:

  1. A video being played in browser 
  2. If I keep the touch screen busy by either taping it or keeping a finger on it
  3. If I use the touchpad
  4. If keyboard is used for typing

This resulted in making the device completely unusable while reading articles or ebooks. I am a developer, most of the time I have to read the code and to do that, I have to constantly keep a finger on the touch pad or the screen. I contacted surface support in October and November and was told that the developers are working on the patch. Looking at the updates the developers are pushing since then, I don't think anyone is even aware of the problem there. 

My previous support ticket numbers are:

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Just wondering if anyone else had the same problem (and the fix) and if not, what's the procedure for the refund? I will rather go for a mac then sacrificing $2000+ for a dancing screen.  

Kind Regards,

Abbas

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Anonymous
2018-05-11T17:59:00+00:00

Hey Everyone,

Creating the best products and experiences for our customers is our top priority.

We have heard your feedback and after careful examination, have determined that a small percentage of Surface Pro 4 devices are exhibiting a screen flicker that cannot be addressed with a firmware or driver update.

To support customers affected by this issue, we will replace eligible Surface Pro 4 devices for up to three years from the date of purchase, free of charge. If you believe your device is experiencing this issue, please visit our Surface Pro 4 screen flicker article for more details.

Bryan [MSFT]

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-06-14T14:03:59+00:00

    Hi N Deslandes,

    I can confirm for me that activity on the screen works ALMOST all of the time - the only occasions when this doesn't help is when using my Surface outside on a sunny day, where the heat is even worse. In these scenarios the flickering is so bad its impossible to make anything on the screen legible. We should never lose sight that this is purely a workaround until an official fix/replacement is provided though.

    I do believe the issue is heat related, possibly down to a faulty batch of components that have worn down over time. The fact this happens outside of the OS, it's reliably repeatable by doing a CPU intensive task, and turning down the screen brightness (and therefore the heat) reduces the frequency of the shaking makes me lead to this conclusion.

    For the person who asked whether anyone has spoken to Microsoft support for the £29 support call - I complained on Twitter to @Surface_UK and got a free support call raised - however it has been 2 months now and I still have no resolution - the international call centre only ever contacts me for doing more testing every week or so, and all the tests are basic functionality tests other affected users have already suggested and done in this thread. I'm expecting another call this afternoon, which I am sure will lead to further frustration. If anyone wants my call reference number I am happy to provide it.

    The only new test they asked me to perform was to see if this issue happened in Windows RE. I managed to replicate the error my doing a CPU intensive task, then quickly going into Windows RE before the system cooled down. This is getting beyond a joke now.

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-06-14T14:45:26+00:00

    I've talked to someone on the free phone number support and their only solution is to run the software repair tool thing and to reinstall Windows. After that, they tell you it's a hardware problem. If you use the free line and ask for that support, pay the money, and they're NOT able to fix it, they refund you your money and tell you the whole "it's a hardware problem"

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  3. Anonymous
    2017-06-14T14:53:54+00:00

    I wish it was that easy, but it's not only about screen idling, that's one of behaviors you will eventually bump into another more annoying instance.

    When the flickering is caused when the screen is idle, it can be mitigated having anything update the screen, that's great.

    But there is another inverted instance that only happens when the display is active, it's almost the exact opposite of the idle flickering.

    When this happens, when the display is idle, everything is fine, but as soon as something changes, the screen starts flickering, and it only stops when the screen stops updating, I normally minimize everything, in about two seconds, the flickering stops.. but then as soon as I even move the mouse... the flickering starts.

    This is even worse because even watching videos makes everything flicker.

    I am really disappointed, and as others have mentioned, I am reluctant to send my device to get another one, as I am out of the US, and I am afraid I would get another device that would have the same problem, eventually.

    my sp4 is same like yours, idle = fine, once moving the mouse, immediately start flicker/jump up and down.

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  4. Anonymous
    2017-06-14T15:28:35+00:00

    Wow, I was afraid of that answer; so it seems people mitigating the issue by having activity on the screen are just on borrowed time...

    I am in as much shock as everyone that Microsoft hasn't provided a fix for, or even acknowledged the issue after a such a long time. Maybe we should all bombard @Surface and @Surface_UK on Twitter with complaints every day until they finally come back with a proper answer...

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