Surface Pro 3 external monitor / display port issues

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I know many people have been having issues with external monitors and the displayport connections on the Surface Pro 3 and Surface dock. I've been having some issues too, and thought I'd share my config / workarounds in case it helps. I believe the issue is fundamentally with the Surface video drivers getting confused, not the docking station.

My explicit questions are: Is there an easy way to force it to detect new displays? Anybody have any other suggestions on how to resolve this? Is there some way to open a formal technical ticket with MS?

My hardware: Surface Pro 3 i7, 256 GB; Surface docking station, 2 HP Z24i displays (1920x1200 resolution each), StarTech Mini DisplayPort 1.2 to Triple Head DisplayPort MST Hub (StarTech PN# MSTMDP123DP)

It's setup as follows: Mini DisplayPort MST Hub plugged into back of docking station, HP monitors plugged into ports 1 and 2 of the hub.

I've had this setup running for about 2 weeks. At first I couldn't get it working, but with the last firmware update in mid August it started working fine.

HOWEVER, just this week I've had issues where I can't get the Surface to detect the displays / output to them when I first plug in to the dock in the morning OR sometimes when it's waking up from going to sleep (like at lunchtime). No amount of fiddling / plugging / unplugging things seems to consistently fix it. The 'Detect' button in the Screen Resolution window doesn't help. Doing a shutdown / restart of the Surface also doesn't consistently work. Note that when the Surface gets like this, even plugging the Hub directly into the mini display port on the Surface itself (with it not docked) won't work.

The reason I believe this is a Surface / Windows issues is that when it gets into this state, within the screen resolution settings in windows it often thinks that there is another active display plugged in and will act as such (e.g. lets me extend or duplicate the desktop) - even if I have the surface completely undocked, not plugged into anything. Specifically it says it is a "Display device on: Mobile PC Display" with a resolution lower than 1024 x 768. See pic below. This state often survives through a reboot of the Surface.

The general process I usually get to work after a couple tries:

-Use Windows-P keys to set the surface to use only the internal display

-Shutdown the surface and undock

-Unplug the dock and hub

-Plug hub back in

-Power Surface back up while undocked and login

-Dock surface

-Plug dock back in

-I'll know it works at this point because the displays will automatically come on (no need to use windows-P key to toggle them)

NOTE TO FORUM MODS:

Before you reply with your standard questions, know that I've already done all the normal things, including shutdown, check all cables, all updates installed, run the hardware and devices troubleshooter. I've also checked related threads, such as: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfpro3-surfdevice/external-display-flicker/1e2b9154-0533-4137-880f-55a90d2d6659?page=1&tm=1409850909719 (Note I've never had an issue with flicker) and http://www.surfaceforums.net/threads/mini-displayport-on-new-docking-station-doesnt-work.10577/ (This isn't an active vs. passive adapter thing.) Once I get it working it works just fine until the surface undocks or reboots. It's clearly an issue with Windows / Surface not properly detecting displays.

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Anonymous

2014-09-25T20:33:24+00:00

Thanks for getting back to me. Clever idea on using both ports as a workaround. Hopefully more folks will pick-up on this thread. Tx.
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Anonymous

2014-10-04T18:07:35+00:00

I am having the same issues with my multi monitor **** 1.2 setup. In my configuration I have 2 Samsung monitors running in dp1.2 mode connected to a Accell ultra AV mdp 1.2 to 2 **** mst hub. The hub is connected to my docking station. The surface recognizes the monitors and I can extend the desktop to these displays. However, after a minute or so the monitors will flicker on and off like the do when windows detects a new display. I have tried multiple different **** hubs which all support 1.2 and all have the same issue. I've also tried 3 different surface pros 3s and all exhibit the same behavior.

I have also verified the hub and monitors work with my desktop pc. So at this point it really looks like either a surface issue or docking station issue.

This is very frustrating.... is there a known issue with sp3's support for dp1.2 mst?
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Anonymous

2014-10-04T20:11:31+00:00

Update on my issue - I downloaded the most up to date Intel HD 4400 drivers from the Intel site and my monitors have been stable for the past couple hours.

To update the drivers I had to force the install via device manager, using the exe from Intel didn't work (OEM restriction).

Haven't noticed any video issues yet, sleep/wakeup/dock/undock scenarios all seem to be working and stable.
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Anonymous

2014-10-13T21:20:38+00:00

I just wanted to throw my hat in this ring... I have the same setup, but I'm using a Club 3D MST hub and (2)Dell P2314 monitors, and have the same issue. Additional monitors work great until the Surface goes to sleep or restarts. After reboot, the Surface does not detect the additional monitors at all. This is a new Surface Pro 3 that I haven't customized yet, so I can confirm the reset/refresh option does not help. I have installed all Microsoft updates with the Surface in the docking station.

After trying many workarounds and frustratingly watching as suggested fixes do nothing to help, we've dumped these MST-type hubs for DisplayLink USB3 hubs to enable a dual monitor setup. We run one monitor from the mDP port in the back of the Surface dock, then have the other monitor plugged into the USB3 dock that's plugged into the Surface dock (I know, ridiculous). Video performance is good for what we need (business use), but I'm sure this setup would not be sufficient for gamers or those with high performance video needs.

So, I'm not sure if the fix for this lies with Microsoft, Intel's graphics, or the makers of the MST hubs, but it's very frustrating that we can't use dual external monitors with the Surface dock without a menagerie of workarounds and hubs. Every other business-grade laptop dock supports dual external monitors out of the box (well, at least Dell, which is what we used before this).
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2014-10-14T12:00:54+00:00

So, I'm not sure if the fix for this lies with Microsoft, Intel's graphics, or the makers of the MST hubs, but it's very frustrating that we can't use dual external monitors with the Surface dock without a menagerie of workarounds and hubs. Every other business-grade laptop dock supports dual external monitors out of the box (well, at least Dell, which is what we used before this).

TL;DR - Try an EVGA 200-****-1301-L2 hub.

So here's my experience.

I purchased a Surface Pro 3 (i7/512GB) to replace my main workstation (I code). Since my existing monitors were of the Korean type (Yamanashi 30") I had to either purchase two active DisplayPort to DualLink DVI adapters for around a hundred bucks each, OR, replace the monitors for something with native ****.

I choose the second option. However, due to my criteria for monitors I couldn't get anything which supported daisy-chaining out of the box. I ended up grabbing a couple Benq BL3200PT monitors and after a little searching around on forums a StarTech MSTMDP123DP MST hub.

My god what a f$%#ing nightmare that turned out to be. From the outset I had nothing but problems with screens flickering, disconnecting and reconnecting by themselves and last but by no means least BSoDs.

I kept trying to get this setup working for about a month, but finally gave in and returned the StarTech to Amazon for a refund.

I then purchased a couple no-name MiniDP-**** cables and ran docking-station to one monitor and SP3 to the other. I continued this until it became a chore having to reconnect cables every time I re-docked my SP3.

At this point I considered getting rid of the SP3 completely and going back to my old rig still sitting idle under my desk, but stubborn as I am I figured I'd give it one more chance. I took the plunge on a EVGA 200-****-1301-L2 MST hub. As soon as I plugged this in, still using the no-name mDP-**** cable connected to my docking station my SP3 recognized both external monitors and I was able to extend my desktop no problem.

So, basically, if you're all still having issues, try replacing your existing hub with the EVGA one (apparently there are chipset differences between the L2 and non L2 versions so get the L2) and it should work out of the box.
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