Surface Pro 3 external monitor / display port issues

Anonymous
2014-09-04T17:19:34+00:00

I know many people have been having issues with external monitors and the displayport connections on the Surface Pro 3 and Surface dock.  I've been having some issues too, and thought I'd share my config / workarounds in case it helps. I believe the issue is fundamentally with the Surface video drivers getting confused, not the docking station. 

My explicit questions are: Is there an easy way to force it to detect new displays?  Anybody have any other suggestions on how to resolve this?  Is there some way to open a formal technical ticket with MS?

My hardware: Surface Pro 3 i7, 256 GB; Surface docking station, 2 HP Z24i displays (1920x1200 resolution each), StarTech Mini DisplayPort 1.2 to Triple Head DisplayPort MST Hub (StarTech PN# MSTMDP123DP)

It's setup as follows: Mini DisplayPort MST Hub plugged into back of docking station, HP monitors plugged into ports 1 and 2 of the hub.

I've had this setup running for about 2 weeks. At first I couldn't get it working, but with the last firmware update in mid August it started working fine.

HOWEVER, just this week I've had issues where I can't get the Surface to detect the displays / output to them when I first plug in to the dock in the morning OR sometimes when it's waking up from going to sleep (like at lunchtime). No amount of fiddling / plugging / unplugging things seems to consistently fix it.  The 'Detect' button in the Screen Resolution window doesn't help.  Doing a shutdown / restart of the Surface also doesn't consistently work. Note that when the Surface gets like this, even plugging the Hub directly into the mini display port on the Surface itself (with it not docked) won't work.

The reason I believe this is a Surface / Windows issues is that when it gets into this state, within the screen resolution settings in windows it often thinks that there is another active display plugged in and will act as such (e.g. lets me extend or duplicate the desktop) - even if I have the surface completely undocked, not plugged into anything. Specifically it says it is a "Display device on: Mobile PC Display" with a resolution lower than 1024 x 768.  See pic below.  This state often survives through a reboot of the Surface.

The general process I usually get to work after a couple tries:

-Use Windows-P keys to set the surface to use only the internal display

-Shutdown the surface and undock

-Unplug the dock and hub

-Plug hub back in

-Power Surface back up while undocked and login

-Dock surface

-Plug dock back in

-I'll know it works at this point because the displays will automatically come on (no need to use windows-P key to toggle them)

NOTE TO FORUM MODS:

Before you reply with your standard questions, know that I've already done all the normal things, including shutdown, check all cables, all updates installed, run the hardware and devices troubleshooter.  I've also checked related threads, such as: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfpro3-surfdevice/external-display-flicker/1e2b9154-0533-4137-880f-55a90d2d6659?page=1&tm=1409850909719 (Note I've never had an issue with flicker) and http://www.surfaceforums.net/threads/mini-displayport-on-new-docking-station-doesnt-work.10577/ (This isn't an active vs. passive adapter thing.)  Once I get it working it works just fine until the surface undocks or reboots.  It's clearly an issue with Windows / Surface not properly detecting displays.

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-01-04T19:16:37+00:00

    I've been having intermittent issues with my Surface Pro 3 and dock as you've described here.  Your troubleshooting steps worked for me, though I've just come across another bit of evidence that may point to a dock issue.

    I had my updates freeze during downloads and the whole Settings app would freeze when trying to check the Update History.  I restarted my Surface Pro 3 and again my dual-monitor setup (these are 2 older Dell U2412M connected via mini DP to DP cables directly to the Surface Dock's two mini DP ports) went blank.

    I attempted to check the Surface Dock firmware (and update if needed) by installing the Microsoft Surface Dock Updater software here:  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/itpro/surface/surface-dock-updater

    Immediately upon successful installation of the tool (NO firmware check, NO downloads, nothing), the dual external monitors came back to life.  I did notice during the install that the status light on the dock connector flashed, indicating a Surface Dock restart.

    So I believe that a power cycle on the dock may likely fix the issue by itself, and I'll check that out if the problem happens again.  Granted this is a one-time anecdotal account, but the problem is still happening for me today and it would be great to get some confirmation of a dock restart fixing the issue reliably (or, maybe, in a perfect world, for Microsoft to fix their product <gasp!>).

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-01-06T03:02:16+00:00

    So...obviously quite a few people have this problem...how do we formally address it with Microsoft?

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  3. Anonymous
    2014-10-04T20:11:31+00:00

    Update on my issue - I downloaded the most up to date Intel HD 4400 drivers from the Intel site and my monitors have been stable for the past couple hours.

    To update the drivers I had to force the install via device manager, using the exe from Intel didn't work (OEM restriction).

    Haven't noticed any video issues yet, sleep/wakeup/dock/undock scenarios all seem to be working and stable.

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  4. Anonymous
    2014-09-25T20:33:24+00:00

    Thanks for getting back to me. Clever idea on using both ports as a workaround. Hopefully more folks will pick-up on this thread. Tx.

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  5. Anonymous
    2014-09-06T05:23:15+00:00

    I have a Surface Pro 3 512GB in a Surface Pro 3 docking station connected to a KVM switch.

    The switch has a keyboard and external monitor (1920x1200).  Usually, when I put the Surface Pro 3 in the docking station and power it up it will recognize the switch as it goes to external display only mode.  Unfortunately, if the switch is not set to the Surface Pro 3 it will start with the wrong resolution and not switch even when the keyboard/external monitor is switched to it.

    I have found that right clicking on the screen and selecting Screen Resolution and then unplugging and plugging in the display port to VGA adapter from/to the docking station will cause the Surface Pro 3 to recognize the monitor and switch resolutions to 1920x1200.

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