Surface Pro 3 external monitor / display port issues

Anonymous
2014-09-04T17:19:34+00:00

I know many people have been having issues with external monitors and the displayport connections on the Surface Pro 3 and Surface dock.  I've been having some issues too, and thought I'd share my config / workarounds in case it helps. I believe the issue is fundamentally with the Surface video drivers getting confused, not the docking station. 

My explicit questions are: Is there an easy way to force it to detect new displays?  Anybody have any other suggestions on how to resolve this?  Is there some way to open a formal technical ticket with MS?

My hardware: Surface Pro 3 i7, 256 GB; Surface docking station, 2 HP Z24i displays (1920x1200 resolution each), StarTech Mini DisplayPort 1.2 to Triple Head DisplayPort MST Hub (StarTech PN# MSTMDP123DP)

It's setup as follows: Mini DisplayPort MST Hub plugged into back of docking station, HP monitors plugged into ports 1 and 2 of the hub.

I've had this setup running for about 2 weeks. At first I couldn't get it working, but with the last firmware update in mid August it started working fine.

HOWEVER, just this week I've had issues where I can't get the Surface to detect the displays / output to them when I first plug in to the dock in the morning OR sometimes when it's waking up from going to sleep (like at lunchtime). No amount of fiddling / plugging / unplugging things seems to consistently fix it.  The 'Detect' button in the Screen Resolution window doesn't help.  Doing a shutdown / restart of the Surface also doesn't consistently work. Note that when the Surface gets like this, even plugging the Hub directly into the mini display port on the Surface itself (with it not docked) won't work.

The reason I believe this is a Surface / Windows issues is that when it gets into this state, within the screen resolution settings in windows it often thinks that there is another active display plugged in and will act as such (e.g. lets me extend or duplicate the desktop) - even if I have the surface completely undocked, not plugged into anything. Specifically it says it is a "Display device on: Mobile PC Display" with a resolution lower than 1024 x 768.  See pic below.  This state often survives through a reboot of the Surface.

The general process I usually get to work after a couple tries:

-Use Windows-P keys to set the surface to use only the internal display

-Shutdown the surface and undock

-Unplug the dock and hub

-Plug hub back in

-Power Surface back up while undocked and login

-Dock surface

-Plug dock back in

-I'll know it works at this point because the displays will automatically come on (no need to use windows-P key to toggle them)

NOTE TO FORUM MODS:

Before you reply with your standard questions, know that I've already done all the normal things, including shutdown, check all cables, all updates installed, run the hardware and devices troubleshooter.  I've also checked related threads, such as: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfpro3-surfdevice/external-display-flicker/1e2b9154-0533-4137-880f-55a90d2d6659?page=1&tm=1409850909719 (Note I've never had an issue with flicker) and http://www.surfaceforums.net/threads/mini-displayport-on-new-docking-station-doesnt-work.10577/ (This isn't an active vs. passive adapter thing.)  Once I get it working it works just fine until the surface undocks or reboots.  It's clearly an issue with Windows / Surface not properly detecting displays.

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  1. Anonymous
    2016-05-09T01:18:06+00:00

    Just curious to know if you eventually found a solution to this because I am currently facing the same problem. 

    Thanks

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  2. Anonymous
    2016-03-04T21:35:51+00:00

    Have you been using Windows "snap" to move app windows around on the screen?  I have found this to often create a black screen if the Docking Station is being used.  Similarly moving an app window near the edge of the screen frequently causes a black screen.  If I keep holding the mouse and blindly bring the app window back away from the edge the screen comes back.  Sometime the screen just starts flickering after a while.  The instability seems to be more acute when more than 2 app windows are open in the screen and also when a browser is one (or more) of the app windows - maybe due to refreshing?

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  3. Anonymous
    2016-02-26T21:34:02+00:00

    I can confirm SkippyG4's report that this problem still exists on the Surface Pro 4 with all the latest updates and the same StarTech MST Hub MSTMDP123DP.

    Having wasted enough time with failed attempts to make it work with my Surface Pro 3, I'm loathe to try any further with my new Surface Pro 4. I may just demand a refund.

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  4. Anonymous
    2016-02-18T22:32:08+00:00

    I was having the same issues. but I must say 95% of the time daisy chain works. 

    I tried what Christian mentioned,  fully power one of them down (unplugged both) in order to make the Surface recognize that there are external monitors with the SP3 running in the dock I powered up the monitors in order 2 then three. I'm back up with two extended.

    Thanks for the help.

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  5. Anonymous
    2015-11-19T15:09:54+00:00

    Andy2111,

    Thank you so much.  This worked perfectly for me.  Hopefully these settings will stick, but if not, at least I now know the steps.  This is definitely an OS or driver issue.  Let's hope MS gets this fixed soon.

    Matt

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