Surface Pro 4 - External screen keeps turning on/off (black flickering)

Anonymous
2017-06-13T21:32:22+00:00

Hi there,

I just made a video of my recent problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phi\_Yru77aM

You can see that when I'm using the built-in screen of my SP4 (i7, 16GB, 512GB) and only one 4K external screen (both at 60hz), this monitor keeps turning black on a random basis. All my drivers and firmware are up to date (Surface Dock and Surface). I even tried the last Intel Iris 540, same results. I tried another MDP to DP cable, same results. I tried another screen, same results. I tried different refresh rates, same results.

I bought this screen a month ago and I was working fine at the beginning. I strongly suspect an update or the fact that I tried to connect two 4K monitors at 60hz (and I would have damaged something in the process?).

If I deactivate the built-in screen, the problem goes away (something that I just found tonight).

Should I send the device in warranty or just wait for a software fix? The 4K experience is not there yet, I'm a bit disappointed I have to say.

Cheers,

D.

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-09-19T16:55:12+00:00

    The same problem plagues me. The external monitor turns on/off intermittently and it seems to be getting worse with increased repeated instances over time. The external monitor blinked on/off twice while writing this response.

    I am using a SP4 (i7, 16gb, 256GB) with a docking station and a Monoprice 28-inch UHD Select Series Matte 4K external monitor 60Hz. I have two surface docks and two identical monitors. The SP4 is on auto updates. The cable connection is MDP to DP on the monitor. I use both the SP4 and external monitor concurrently as one continuous display. I have not tried using the external monitor alone (this defeats the purposes, since I need/want both displays).

    This problem started immediately after using the external monitor 6+ months ago. At first, it happened occasionally, and I assumed that it was a docking station issue. Both of my docking stations have been replaced under warranty, with no fix. 

    I have tried various MDP to DP cables, software repair tool, and dock repair, with no fix. I have tried swapping monitors and surface docks, with no fix.

    The blinking was so severe a couple of weeks ago that I started plugging the DP cable directly to the SP4, bypassing the surface dock.  The problem was better at first, but still persists.  This technique created a new problem. Since using the DP port directly on the SP4, I now cannot get the external monitor to display when the DP cable is connected to the surface dock. Now, when the external monitor is connected to the surface dock, everything flickers (as if searching/recognizing the external monitor), but the external monitor stays black and Windows 10 does not recognize its existence. I bought the surface docks to use external monitors, and I now feel like I now own two $180 paperweights/chargers.

    I have connected another SP4 (i5, 8GB, 128GB) that I own to the same surface dock and external monitor, and everything appears to work well (though not tested over time).

    I have no idea, but this string and others online indicates that this is a problem with the i7 and possibly its graphics card/configuration. I also agree that it might be worse when the SP4 gets hot. And I think that I have noticed that it seems to be worse when I have multiple windows of MS Word running on the external monitor (?).

    I had to warranty replace my SP4 i5 a couple of months ago, and it was a major PIA. I am more likely to but a new machine rather than replace or restore/reset/reinstall Windows.  I have called and visited MS store with no success.

    I am local to Redmond, and more than happy to bring it over to MS to troubleshoot.

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-09-26T11:52:03+00:00

    I'm having the same issue on new Surface Pro (2017) i7/16GB. I'm using the Samsung U28E590D which is on the list. 

    What I have tried (1) Software repair tool, (2) various display port to mini display port cables, (3) HDMI 2.0 adapter, (4) Microsoft warranty replaced my Surface Dock over the issue, (5) I've warranty replaced the U28E590D screen and it still happens on my replacement screen, (6) I've tried turning off Hyper-V, (7) Tried 59 Hz / 60 Hz

    Microsoft wants me to call them so they can keep troubleshooting it, but it seems like a pretty widespread issue. I suspect they will warranty replace my Surface over this issue, but I doubt the replacement will contain a fix as it is pretty apparent that the device is defective by design since the SP4, and MS didn't fix any of the underlying usability problems before releasing the new SP.

    Surface Pro 4 with same monitor and same issue.

    Ran the Software Repair tool = no fix.

    Ran the Dock repair file = no fix.

    I believe the flickering began for me after the Creators Update.

    I have noticed that turning off Freesync holds off the flickering, but it is painfully laggy, and need to do more testing to see if that permanently solves the flickering on/off issue.

    I just updated last night:

    2017-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4040724)

    ...and the issue still remains. Immediately after rebooting after update it was worse, turning on and off every other second.

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  3. Anonymous
    2017-09-30T19:39:19+00:00

    lowering the resolution to 2560x1440 will keep it from blinking on/off, but I want to run at 4k.

    Is this a software or hardware issue?

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  4. Anonymous
    2017-10-17T06:24:16+00:00

    Not sure actually but it would look software to me because it was working fine on my setup before Spring update...

    Has anyone gotten some news on this problem?

    I noticed something last week, the automatic brightness adjustment was not working properly and somehow, I could watch videos on the SP4 display and use Lightroom on my 4K display without having any flickering. I had to reboot the SP4 at some point, the automatic dimming worked again but the black flickering came back.

    A clue or not a clue, that's the question ;-)

    Cheers,

    G.

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  5. Anonymous
    2017-10-17T12:08:23+00:00

    It has to be software. Nothing has worked for me other than lowering the resolution of the external display below 4k. I'm hoping the update today fixes it.

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