Surface Pro 3 LGC Battery Degradation

Anonymous
2017-02-16T00:04:44+00:00

Split from this thread.

Split from this thread.

It was suggested that I open a new thread for this issue that I am having.

Since the Win 10 Anniversary update, I was not able to turn on my Surface Pro 3 i7 512GB with LGC LGC Battery without having it plugged in with the power supply or docking (I own a total of Three Surface Pro 3 Docks at home and 2 offices). It always said "82%, Plugged in, Not Charging", and would always instantly turn off once I pulled off the power supply tab.

I had spoke with a Technical Agent online, had my Pro 3 remote accessed, did all the proposed solutions, and even had a call from Bellevue, WA (I live in Hong Kong) before I found out that it was a software issue as stated by Microsoft.

With Auto Update turned on, I was notified that I should restart my Pro 3 this morning while I was on the docking station. I was happy that this issue was going to be resolved, but now I am disappointed that this firmware update did nothing for my Pro 3.

I'm hoping that someone out there has some suggestions.

Thank You.

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  1. Anonymous
    2017-01-06T13:34:35+00:00

    I've given up -- I spent a fortune on my SP3 i7 512 in the fall of 2014 and now I can only use it when I have access to an outlet.  I was a big fan of the SP3 until this battery boondoggle and I'm totally bummed but I need something truly mobile.  Just bought an HP Envy 15t Touch with pimo everything for 50% off on HP's site.  Never again, MSFT, never again.  ☹️

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  2. Anonymous
    2017-01-06T02:20:16+00:00

    To my knowledge here is what has been tried:

    Complete factory reset

    Format and reinstall

    delete drivers and re-install

    Manually reinstall drivers

    Replace the battery (there are services that will do this, but it does not resolve the problem, expect to pay 200-250, these services are not MS)

    Send in for refurb ($450, this option might work, but it has been reported as not working in the past)

    As far as I know there is no way to roll back the firmware nor do I think anyone has pinpointed what actually causes the problem.

    I'd say good luck, but our only hope seems to be MS fixing it, however they seem to be sweeping it under the rug as fast as they can.

    My advice continues to be never buy another surface.

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  3. Anonymous
    2017-01-06T02:10:15+00:00

    I'm guessing there is no way to turn back the firmware? I have tried searching for this, but have not found a tutorial.

    It really is a disappointment for a product like this. It seems as though you can never escape fatal flaws in a product even though it is touted as a Tier 1 top shelf item, it might as well be part of the bottom of the barrel of options. This tablet is luckily covered by Costco Concierge and a Squaretrade extended warranty so I will likely end up using those. Hope it isn't an arduous process.

    I will surely be extremely cautious in the future buying any product of this level, sure as heck will wait for a while after a product gets launched to see if it has issues. I have seen this happen more than once and not just to me. It's something special really, a company is able to put out a premium product and then have it become defective, put in minimal effort to correct it, then wash their hands of it. Hopefully tech news in general will cover the following events and tarnish Microsoft's reputation, as it should and has been.

    I recently did a complete reset of the tablet, it's a hail mary, but would be nice if it fixed the issue.

    This will surely leave all kinds of bad tastes in my mouth. Another disappointment, there's no way in **** I'll be able to resell this tablet for anything worthwhile now.

    Such is life...

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  4. Anonymous
    2017-01-05T19:08:53+00:00

    Unfortunately there is no solution.

    Microsoft broke it with a firmware update originally (if you research this you'll see they admit it in a few places), but no fix is forthcoming.  After the most recent fix they seem to have walked away, there was no response from MS post the 'fix' that didn't seem to fix it for anyone.

    You can swap your computer for a refurb, but I wouldn't recommend it, you will have to pay 450 to do that and someone else in this thread reported the refurb soon started acting the same way.

    My advice?  Don't buy another surface ever.

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  5. Anonymous
    2017-01-05T05:08:48+00:00

    I have also had this issue regarding the surface pro 3 abruptly shutting off even with 50-60% battery. When I tried to turn it back on, it showed a low battery warning and did not turn on. I do not use a docking station or accessories with this device, just the keyboard cover only. This sudden abrupt shutoff has happened on 2 separate times recently and is repeatable. I have run the battery log command and found out this battery is manufactured by Simplo, which Microsoft acknowledges is affected. I will post the battery log below.

    I have this Surface fully updated and in excellent condition. I also use the original charger.

    I have the firmware updates installed regarding the supposed fixes for the issue, these firmware updates did not help.

    I have tried to 2 button shutdown method described in the Microsoft forums, I have done this 2 times and it has not helped.

    I am wondering what needs to be done on my end in order to get this Surface Pro 3 back to it's intended working state?

    Sincerely, Zach


    Battery report

    COMPUTER NAME SURFACEPRO3ZABY
    SYSTEM PRODUCT NAME Microsoft Corporation Surface Pro 3
    BIOS 3.11.1550 06/30/2016
    OS BUILD 14393.576.amd64fre.rs1_release_inmarket.161208-2252
    PLATFORM ROLE Slate
    CONNECTED STANDBY Supported
    REPORT TIME 2017-01-0415:46:26

    Installed batteries

    Information about each currently installed battery

    NAME X904849
    MANUFACTURER SIMPLO
    SERIAL NUMBER 1179786756
    CHEMISTRY LION
    DESIGN CAPACITY 42,157 mWh
    FULL CHARGE CAPACITY 42,583 mWh
    CYCLE COUNT 211

    Recent usage

    Power states over the last 3 days

    2017-01-0117:00:39 Connected standby Battery 57 % 24,457 mWh
    17:00:39 Active Battery 57 % 24,457 mWh
    17:00:45 Connected standby Battery 57 % 24,449 mWh
    17:01:45 Active Battery 57 % 24,358 mWh
    17:40:48 Connected standby Battery 42 % 17,799 mWh
    18:10:47 Suspended 42 % 17,685 mWh
    2017-01-0320:08:29 Connected standby Battery 42 % 17,799 mWh
    20:08:29 Connected standby AC 42 % 17,799 mWh
    20:08:29 Active AC 42 % 17,799 mWh
    21:42:06 Active Battery 93 % 39,702 mWh
    22:18:41 Connected standby Battery 79 % 33,455 mWh
    22:31:37 Active Battery 78 % 33,060 mWh
    23:10:14 Suspended 60 % 25,756 mWh
    2017-01-0400:54:39 Active Battery 99 % 42,355 mWh
    01:07:14 Connected standby Battery 97 % 41,139 mWh
    01:08:16 Active Battery 97 % 41,131 mWh
    01:11:45 Active AC 95 % 40,538 mWh
    01:15:37 Active Battery 97 % 41,488 mWh
    01:39:02 Connected standby Battery 89 % 37,932 mWh
    01:44:59 Active Battery 89 % 37,886 mWh
    02:48:44 Connected standby Battery 59 % 25,088 mWh
    02:50:22 Active Battery 59 % 24,936 mWh
    02:55:37 Connected standby Battery 57 % 24,077 mWh
    02:55:40 Active Battery 57 % 24,069 mWh
    02:56:49 Connected standby Battery 56 % 23,940 mWh
    03:08:45 Suspended 56 % 23,902 mWh
    15:44:22 Active Battery 99 % 42,355 mWh
    15:44:22 Report generated Battery 99 % 42,355 mWh

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