Phantom Touch and Touch Dead Zone on Surface Pro 3

Anonymous
2015-04-02T16:12:19+00:00

Hi all,

I purchased a Surface Pro 3 (i5, 128 GB) 8 months ago (8/14) and had not any problem with it for 4 months. But one day (after some updates I think) the pen stopped working and I thought the batteries are drained. So I replaced them all (the coin and AAAAs) but the problem was not completely solved, the pen was detected and paired but after some minutes or seconds after windows log in, the pen cursor was disappeared from the screen and I had to restart the device or re-pair the pen to get it working again. Some other problems occurred simultaneously, phantom touch and touch dead zone! After changing the batteries, I saw phantom touches on the screen (approximately always on some specific points in the upper right quarter of the screen but not so annoying). Also I found a dead zone on the touch screen. (This area was a rectangle, parallel to the start menu of the Windows and contained the place of phantom touches and was not touchable by fingers but the pen could work on it).

I contacted the Microsoft Support Team and they asked me to install all updates. After doing that the only change was the appearing of a yellow triangle with an exclamation mark below theSurface Pro Touch Controller Firmware in the device manager. So I contacted them again, and they suggested uninstalling/re-installing the driver, rolling it back, 2-button shutdown and finally a Refresh. The first three options did nothing but fortunately after the refresh and update, the pen issue was solved. I think that the Touch Controller was fixed too, because the yellow triangle was gone. But still the issue of phantom touches existed, so I contacted them again, and this time they suggest a Reset. Yesterday I done the reset and update, but not only the problem was not solved but also has become worse. Previously I could work with the device even it had phantom touches but those were weak and with a lower frequency of occurrence. Now they are occurring with a higher frequency and are more destructive so that I can’t control the device under their attack! They close windows, select and delete Items, vibrate the screen, etc. Even they can trap the mouse cursor in fixed squares such as mouse-traps! Like before they are happening on constant points of the screen. (Mainly on 2 point: one in the top left corner (new) and another in the upper right quarter of the screen (as before)). Unhappily the dead zone of the touch screen has become bigger in comparison with before so that I can’t touch about half of the screen with my fingers and have to handle that with the pen. And the last negative effect of the reset was increasing the startup time of the Windows (I mean the time between appearing the Surface Logo and the Windows log in).

I can’t believe that this is a hardware problem because the device is never dropped or damaged, and for 3 or 4 months it didn’t have any problem.

Some other details:

  • A protector is attached to the screen from the first
  • I don’t have a Touch/Type Cover but usually a combo IR mouse/keyboard is connected via USB and with/without it situation doesn’t change.
  • Calibrating the touch screen or resetting its calibration doesn't help
  • Somewhere I road that the fluorescent and magnetic fields may interfere with display of Surface, so I’ve tried removing all nearby electronic equipments and turning off nearby fluorescent lamps, and even using different environments but nothing changed.
  • Phantom touches are happening completely randomly and in all application (metro, explorer, etc.). Sometimes they appear from the moment the device is powered on (even on Surface logo and Windows startup) and sometimes they appear some minutes after Windows startup.
  • I'm sure that this problem is not caused by any 3rd party application or any physical damage, but probably is caused by some updates.
  • Under heavy attacks of phantom touches only then pen can rescue the screen, when even the mouse is trapped or can't do anything!

I’m so disappointed, does anyone have any other suggestion/solution except the Replacement?

Thanks,

Abstract:

  • Problems exist: infuriating phantom touch, touch screen dead zone
  • Problems solved: random disappearing of pen cursor, problem with Surface Pro Touch Controller Firmware
  • Solutions tested: update, driver re-installation, re-calibrating the touch screen, 2-button shutdown, refresh, reset, turning off nearby fluorescent lamps, using different environments
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  1. Anonymous
    2015-08-20T16:00:54+00:00

    Hi TijiP Mathew,

    We are assisting you in another thread of yours.

    Thank you for the participation.

    Kind regards,

    Clare

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  2. Anonymous
    2015-08-19T09:24:53+00:00

    I brought a surface pro 3 with <Remove PII> from Amazon US on Dec 3 2014 and am currently in India. Upgraded the windows 8.1 to windows 10; you know how stupid am to embrace windows 10… surface started taking control of tablet – touch the touch screen by itself… after 3-4 days of windows 10 update. I cannot do anything in the tablet for which I spent more than 900 dollar; hard earned money.

    Surface is stimulating touch – technically “Phantom touches”‏ - in middle part of the screen even without a touch. To login I have to be a guerrilla fighter; I have to strike with my password when “Surface Phantom” is taking a nap… I was victorious ones in 100 but once I logged in I am again attacked by “Phantom”..  to give credit he/she is nonstop in his activity / loyal .. as if this is not my tablet; but his/her.. Not able to operate / trouble shoot tablet as app window position getting changed randomly.

    My hard earn money is a waste; I attracted the “phantom” to life; by doing stupidity of believing the hype about windows 10.

    I had connected with Microsoft customer service through phone and chat. As per direction tried reset also but no resolution. And as per there instruction started downloading 5.5 GB zip file to create the recovery USB. I done download 4 times; each time the downloading stopped in mid-way – (after downloading around 3.5 GB, 1.5 GB .5 GB and then 3 GB which caused more than Rs.2000/- again money lost ).

    There is no resume support for this big zip. Why can’t Microsoft add that?

    Now I am having some Qs Microsoft’s team.

    I could see lots of post related to Phantom touches in surface... if this is a known issue why not fixed during windows 10?

    Why no replay to the mail? The chat room assistant said I can reach out by replaying to that mail with any Qs.

    I am totally disappointed with product brought after shelling out hard earned money. Are there any way I can get a replacement / service. What is the process of shipping to USA from INDIA? Please replay to the post or replay to my mail ID. My Phone number already shared during the chat.

    Chat ID : SRX1300701908ID

    Call reference ID : 1300701908

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  3. Anonymous
    2015-04-20T22:40:07+00:00

    Hello Venusi,

    Any updates for us?

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  4. Anonymous
    2015-04-06T22:32:01+00:00

    Hello Venusi,

    Thank you for the update. I understand your frustration about not wanting to replace the Surface Pro 3.

    Please keep in mind that we cannot speculate, however to answer your question in this case, it's most likely a hardware issue. Support would be the best channel to actually address this issue. Therefore I  strongly recommend you to continue working with them.

    Please keep us updated.

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