Pen works fine when only the pen is making contact with the screen. However, when my palm is resting on the screen, the pressure detection of the pen becomes extremely inaccurate. As soon as skin (palm, fingers, etc) makes contact with the screen, the pressure curve of the pen becomes a staircase, as if the pen could only detect 5-20 levels of pressure, instead of 4096 like it's supposed to. Here's a screenshot from the Surface app: ![](https://learn-attachment.microsoft.com/api/attachments/cdc3b0c5-bfcc-4409-b0a1-318885287f48?platform=QnA And here is how it looks like when drawing: Is this normal? How can I fix it? Device : Surface Pro 7 Model 1866 i5 (8GB RAM, 128GB SSD) OS : Windows 10 Home Version 1903 build 18362.449 (edit: I've since updated to 1909 build 18363.628, issue persists) Pen : Microsoft Surface Pen Model 1776 (Burgundy) I have: paired my pen unpaired and repaired the pen via Bluetooth options rebooted the Surface Pro soft reset the Surface Pro (volume+ and power buttons down for 15 seconds) removed and reinserted the battery into the pen (only way I could think of turning it off and on again) checked Windows Updates checked for app updates via Windows Store run the Surface Diagnostic Toolkit, no problems detected tried with and without Settings → Devices → Pen & Windows Ink → Ignore touch input when I'm using my pen set the correct hand I'm using from pen settings tried in multiple different apps, including Surface app, Adobe Photoshop, Krita, Sketchable, Autodesk SketchBook and others — same problem everywhere tried calibrating the pen (search "calibrate" from start menu and choose pen calibration), a dialog opens after choosing "Calibrate..." → "Pen input", asks for permission, and just makes a sound and closes after I grant permission, so I'm not sure if it's not working correctly, but nothing changed either way — tried to do this multiple times, rebooting in between, but doesn't seem to do anything

did you try the suggestion of running the surface diagnostic tool? I did that, but I think it was AFTER I checked to see if the problem was still present. worth a shot if you havent. I actually prefer drawing with the anti-fouling glove anyway. maybe my skin is just sticky, but I find it much easier to draw long lines with the glove, so my palm isnt stick skipping along the screen.

Unfortunately, this just hasn't been my experience. I even joined the Fast Ring temporarily to get newer versions of Windows as soon as I could, but the preview builds haven't fixed it, and they caused other instabilities so I rolled back to a stable build and got back on the Slow Ring. I'm probably wrong to think cumulative or Feature updates will fix it anyways, and the only time to get excited is when a firmware update starts downloading. Anyways, a firmware update did come for the Pro X about a week ago but only addressed other issues. I can really tell a difference between a brush stroke with my palm resting and one with my palm off the screen.

haven't checked in on this thread for a while, but it SEEMS like the issue has improved. I know windows has done a few updates in the past few weeks, and I hadn't done any drawing in a while, but trying it now it does seem better. Some line wiggle, but not the hard stepping that was happening before. id suggest everyone apply the updates, or try updating the SP7 firmware (I haven't tried that yet, but I did download it).

Just had to say thanks for the story. You don't know how nice it is to hear additional evidence like that to prevent wasting more time thinking about other possibilities ("What if it really is my hardware?" etc). It also brings some vague hope that the fix is around the corner. There's a small rumor it might coincide with the release of the Go 2 next week. Either way they're killing me and I've also spent the past month thinking about taking the hit to switch to iPad...

I have recently bought a Surface Pro 7 (i7, 16Gb, 265Gb) and I can confirm that the first time I started it up there was no problem. I immediatly checked for pressure staircasing when touching because I saw Tablet Pro's video and wondered if it was still present and boy was I glad to see it was ok. Then I updated and boom, pressure staircasing with palm touching the screen. So it is almost certain that this is a problem that can be fixed on the software/firmware side... no? I really hope Microsoft takes care of this issue, but judging by the comments here it has already been a pretty long time with no solution.. Other things that I have done +- at the same time as updating and thus at the same time the pressure staircasing started: installing Office 365, installing Smart Notebook (I use this in the classroom as a teacher) I primarily chose the Surface for drawing so it really is a big setback. Things like this make me want a freaking iPad and I can assure you, that's a weird statement coming out of my mouth...

Surface Pro 7 pen pressure issues with palm rejection

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Pen works fine when only the pen is making contact with the screen. However, when my palm is resting on the screen, the pressure detection of the pen becomes extremely inaccurate. As soon as skin (palm, fingers, etc) makes contact with the screen, the pressure curve of the pen becomes a staircase, as if the pen could only detect 5-20 levels of pressure, instead of 4096 like it's supposed to. Here's a screenshot from the Surface app:![](https://learn-attachment.microsoft.com/api/attachments/cdc3b0c5-bfcc-4409-b0a1-318885287f48?platform=QnAAnd here is how it looks like when drawing:

Is this normal? How can I fix it?

Device: Surface Pro 7 Model 1866 i5 (8GB RAM, 128GB SSD)

OS: Windows 10 Home Version 1903 build 18362.449 (edit: I've since updated to 1909 build 18363.628, issue persists)

Pen: Microsoft Surface Pen Model 1776 (Burgundy)

I have:

paired my pen
unpaired and repaired the pen via Bluetooth options
rebooted the Surface Pro
soft reset the Surface Pro (volume+ and power buttons down for 15 seconds)
removed and reinserted the battery into the pen (only way I could think of turning it off and on again)
checked Windows Updates
checked for app updates via Windows Store
run the Surface Diagnostic Toolkit, no problems detected
tried with and without Settings → Devices → Pen & Windows Ink → Ignore touch input when I'm using my pen
set the correct hand I'm using from pen settings
tried in multiple different apps, including Surface app, Adobe Photoshop, Krita, Sketchable, Autodesk SketchBook and others — same problem everywhere
tried calibrating the pen (search "calibrate" from start menu and choose pen calibration), a dialog opens after choosing "Calibrate..." → "Pen input", asks for permission, and just makes a sound and closes after I grant permission, so I'm not sure if it's not working correctly, but nothing changed either way — tried to do this multiple times, rebooting in between, but doesn't seem to do anything

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2020-05-11T00:42:29+00:00

did you try the suggestion of running the surface diagnostic tool? I did that, but I think it was AFTER I checked to see if the problem was still present. worth a shot if you havent. I actually prefer drawing with the anti-fouling glove anyway. maybe my skin is just sticky, but I find it much easier to draw long lines with the glove, so my palm isnt stick skipping along the screen.
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2020-05-09T03:03:38+00:00

Unfortunately, this just hasn't been my experience. I even joined the Fast Ring temporarily to get newer versions of Windows as soon as I could, but the preview builds haven't fixed it, and they caused other instabilities so I rolled back to a stable build and got back on the Slow Ring. I'm probably wrong to think cumulative or Feature updates will fix it anyways, and the only time to get excited is when a firmware update starts downloading.

Anyways, a firmware update did come for the Pro X about a week ago but only addressed other issues. I can really tell a difference between a brush stroke with my palm resting and one with my palm off the screen.
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2020-05-09T02:32:25+00:00

haven't checked in on this thread for a while, but it SEEMS like the issue has improved. I know windows has done a few updates in the past few weeks, and I hadn't done any drawing in a while, but trying it now it does seem better. Some line wiggle, but not the hard stepping that was happening before. id suggest everyone apply the updates, or try updating the SP7 firmware (I haven't tried that yet, but I did download it).
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2020-05-08T23:03:30+00:00

Just had to say thanks for the story. You don't know how nice it is to hear additional evidence like that to prevent wasting more time thinking about other possibilities ("What if it really is my hardware?" etc).

It also brings some vague hope that the fix is around the corner. There's a small rumor it might coincide with the release of the Go 2 next week. Either way they're killing me and I've also spent the past month thinking about taking the hit to switch to iPad...
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2020-05-08T22:17:01+00:00

I have recently bought a Surface Pro 7 (i7, 16Gb, 265Gb) and I can confirm that the first time I started it up there was no problem. I immediatly checked for pressure staircasing when touching because I saw Tablet Pro's video and wondered if it was still present and boy was I glad to see it was ok.

Then I updated and boom, pressure staircasing with palm touching the screen. So it is almost certain that this is a problem that can be fixed on the software/firmware side... no?

I really hope Microsoft takes care of this issue, but judging by the comments here it has already been a pretty long time with no solution..

Other things that I have done +- at the same time as updating and thus at the same time the pressure staircasing started: installing Office 365, installing Smart Notebook (I use this in the classroom as a teacher)

I primarily chose the Surface for drawing so it really is a big setback. Things like this make me want a freaking iPad and I can assure you, that's a weird statement coming out of my mouth...
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